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  • Australia

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  • Israel

    18 11.76%
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    Oh I SO want Glow to reply to this

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    Quote Originally Posted by parihaka
    Oh I SO want Glow to reply to this
    Guess I shoulda kept my mouth shut. Looks like the Canadians can take care of their own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers
    You went to high school in the US, right? Well, you're insulting their education system and embarrassing my country.
    Let's not be too hasty here.

    He's not an insult to our education system. Our education system really is that bad. Our high school is more interested in indoctrinate our young with left wing ideology and anti-Americanism than teaching kids how to read and write.

    I'd say he's a good representation of our failed public education system.

    Global warming? HA! Even the global warming cult is changing their name to "climate change" cult.

    Global warming is a concoction of pseudo scientists desperate for research grants because they can't find a real job in the real world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers
    Vietnam; Grenada; post-Korean-War Korea; post-Kuwait-War Iraq; Beirut Bombing Lebenon; Tanker War; North Korea atomic crisis; China-US EP-3 Incident; Liberia; Sierra Leonne
    Sir, aren't there Canadians in Afghanistan and Bosnia right now, helping out US?

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    We no longer have a battle group in Yugoslavia. Instead, there's a combat brigade (2000+ troops) under American command in Afghanistan and have been seeing alot of action lately.
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    [QUOTE=Officer of Engineers]QUOTE]
    LOL yeah you keep thinking that. Polluted water and and air isn't going to kill anyone cause corporate America keeps America clean right? Lets Oh wait Amount of pollution related deaths millions > Terrorist Attacks well until 911 barely making a dent.

    It's pretty crazzy living in the northern hemisphere and each year theres less and less snow dramatically it's great when people the South go on about how theres no change in weather cause ya know all that snow they get anually. But hey Fox News and Jesus will protect you from it all right?

    Where exactly are you getting this Canada wouldn't have to spend anything on the missle defense system?

    It is rather nice that in every response you found a way to not carry on a valid debate or conversation buy you resorted to name calling. Nice Nice no wonder the US is so amazing at winning over the hearts of the world bunch of assholes like you can't even carry on a conversation. /
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    Vietnam; You realize you lost this right? Hope you know that first off. "Canada played both sides of the fence: On one hand, it actively supported the war by exporting materiel, spying for the Americans while on the ICC, and trying to play a mediator role to help reach a conclusion that could allow the U.S. to honourably leave the conflict" etc etc http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_and_the_Vietnam_War
    Some people from Canada did go join the military in the US too I hope you know.

    Grenada; An island nation no bigger than Martha's Vineyard. US Navy couldn't handle it you need Canada and surrounding neighbors to help?

    post-Korean; You always need countries to keep things running in wars you don't finish or what you weren't exactly fighting anywhere else for the next while.

    War Korea; Participation of Canadian forces in the UN Operations in Korea from 1950 to 1953

    post-Kuwait- War Iraq; Haha well we participated in the war and one of the first nations to back it. first time since the Korean War that Canadian forces had participated in offensive combat operations. Some of our vets have gulf war syndtome too. But you say post Iraq war? LOL what the hell did the US do for Iraq post war? protected the kurds but went right back in to do bombings once then invaded it next.

    Beirut Bombing Lebenon; Ummm What do you want from Canada on this one? Go send home the dead troops for you guys or what? Horrible thing that happened but I dunno why the truck wasn't stopped or how Canada should have anything to do with this one.

    Tanker War; Iran Iraq war? What do u want Canada to do help the US transport chemical weapons to Iraq? Or what?

    North Korea atomic crisis; "China has also allowed North Korea to ship SCUD missiles through its territory for Middle Eastern customers. According to a Canadian undercover operative, North Korean agents moved dismantled SCUD missiles through China into Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iran." You don't just think Canada sits by do you?

    China-US EP-3 Incident; You wanted us to do what?

    Liberia; Canadian Foreign Affairs Minister Peter MacKay issued a statement Thursday that supported Taylor's arrest and trial of war-crimes charges. No troops just political

    Sierra Leonne; What did the US do? I'm not even familiar with this.

    Cdns did also recently go to Haiti to deal with that mess too.

    BTW Cdn rescue workers were also getting to Katrina survivors than some American rescue organizations
    "The suburb of 68,000 people was initially ignored by U.S. authorities who were scrambling to get aid to New Orleans. Boasso said floodwater in his parish is still 2.4 metres deep in some places."
    Boasso saved his praise for the Canadians and their quick work. "They were so glad to be here," he said. "They're still here. They are actually going door-to-door looking in the attics" for people to rescue." Where were you troops? or Fema? They were down there before a lot of US agencies were.

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    Lol. Don't shoot till you see the whites of his eyes, Colonel.



    Okay, fire at will....
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    Quote Originally Posted by highsea
    Lol. Don't shoot till you see the whites of his eyes, Colonel.



    Okay, fire at will....
    LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,

    Please pull up a chair and get comfortable, grab a beer, some snacks. The main event will happen in a couple hours time. You still have time to order a pizza.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glow
    LOL yeah you keep thinking that. Polluted water and and air isn't going to kill anyone cause corporate America keeps America clean right? Lets Oh wait Amount of pollution related deaths millions > Terrorist Attacks well until 911 barely making a dent.

    It's pretty crazzy living in the northern hemisphere and each year theres less and less snow dramatically it's great when people the South go on about how theres no change in weather cause ya know all that snow they get anually. But hey Fox News and Jesus will protect you from it all right?
    Do you believe in dinosaurs? How long did it take for them to become extinct? Paleontologists said they extincted within a "geologic blink of an eye." It is believed that a giant asteroid hit the earth roughly 65 million years ago and the dinosaurs died out within the next few hundred thousand years, a "geologic blink of an eye" if you will.

    Here we are, with the global warming cultists trying to tell us the earth is warming up based on the data they collected for the last 30 years. How long is 30 years? Is it a long enough time span for us to get a clear picture of a planet that's believed to be nearly 4 billion years old? Sharks haven't changed for around 60 million years. Grass appeared around 30 million years ago. There were no tropical rain forest until 25 million years ago. Horses were the size of house dogs 3 million years ago. Modern man appeared 1.5 million years ago. We moved out of Africa maybe a few hundred thousand years ago, a "geologic blink of an eye" if you will.

    Earth has been warming up for the past 30 years. Oh no. We are all doomed. Because we measured the earth for 30 years therefore we can extrapolate the health of a planet that's 4 billion years old. We are so intelligent.

    You know, this morning I woke up at 8 and it was 60F outside. The temperature rose to 80F by 10AM. It's 100F at noon. Therefore I project the air temperature will hit 140F by 4PM, 180F by 8PM, and by midnight, 220F.

    By the way, have you tracked down the manbearpig yet?

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    I just served the appetizer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glow
    LOL yeah you keep thinking that. Polluted water and and air isn't going to kill anyone cause corporate America keeps America clean right?
    I can't believe you're that dumb. The point, jackass is that we're polluting far more than the Americans.

    Quote Originally Posted by glow
    Lets Oh wait Amount of pollution related deaths millions > Terrorist Attacks well until 911 barely making a dent.
    How many Canadians died of pollution last year? Last decade? Care to provide the stats?

    Quote Originally Posted by glow
    It's pretty crazzy living in the northern hemisphere and each year theres less and less snow dramatically it's great when people the South go on about how theres no change in weather cause ya know all that snow they get anually. But hey Fox News and Jesus will protect you from it all right?
    So, you do swallow.

    Nat' Academies Press, Natural Climate Variability on Decade-to-Century Time Scales

    FIGURE 5

    Annual snowfall over North America during the last 40 years. The applied scale-correction factors for network elevation are: for Alaska—1.23; for Canada, Zone 55-70°N—1.14, Zone 45-55°N—1.19, and Zone 35-45°N—1.47.
    The data says you are 100% wrong. So, either you pulled this crap out of your butt or you swallow the come-on of the global warming crowd.

    Quote Originally Posted by glow
    Where exactly are you getting this Canada wouldn't have to spend anything on the missle defense system?
    General Ray Henault.

    Quote Originally Posted by glow
    It is rather nice that in every response you found a way to not carry on a valid debate or conversation buy you resorted to name calling. Nice Nice no wonder the US is so amazing at winning over the hearts of the world bunch of assholes like you can't even carry on a conversation.
    Cry me a river. The world ain't a nice place. And I am a Canadian and you are an embarrassement to my country. If you can't handle it, go to baby school. This forum ain't for wimps and it certainly ain't for those who don't have convictions.

    Thankfully, at least 2000+ Canadians don't agree with you one bit with what you call help.

    Quote Originally Posted by glow
    Vietnam; You realize you lost this right? Hope you know that first off. "Canada played both sides of the fence: On one hand, it actively supported the war by exporting materiel, spying for the Americans while on the ICC, and trying to play a mediator role to help reach a conclusion that could allow the U.S. to honourably leave the conflict" etc etc
    What a load of horse crock! The very fact it was the ICC should tell you exactly what kind of help Canada could have given the US. The ICC was made up of three countries; none of which were official allies of Hanoi nor of the VC. That means 3 different armies were watching Hanoi. More over, since the ICC is supposedly a neutral observing body, ALL its findings are to be reported to the world body.

    All this means the ICC saw only what Hanoi allowed the ICC to see. Good source? Hardly. The CF Officers in the ICC did extremely good work and that work is of some value but in the overall scheme of things, the Americans could have lived and prospered without it. At best, Washington got a heads up on what the ICC was going to tell the world ... and that was the way Ottawa wanted it.

    Quote Originally Posted by glow
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_and_the_Vietnam_War
    Some people from Canada did go join the military in the US too I hope you know.
    And those Canadians served a foreign flag and wore a foreign uniform; has nothing to do with Canada.

    Quote Originally Posted by glow
    Grenada; An island nation no bigger than Martha's Vineyard. US Navy couldn't handle it you need Canada and surrounding neighbors to help?
    Canada should not help then? Gee, that's a nice excuse. You Americans can do all the work and we'll just sit back and enjoy the results of a newly free and democractic country in the region.

    Quote Originally Posted by glow
    post-Korean; You always need countries to keep things running in wars you don't finish or what you weren't exactly fighting anywhere else for the next while.
    We didn't finish, dumbass ... and we left the South Koreans and the Americans holding the bag.

    Quote Originally Posted by glow
    War Korea; Participation of Canadian forces in the UN Operations in Korea from 1950 to 1953
    You could not even google right. First Canadian action was on 22 April, 1951 at the Battle of Kapyong by my battle group.

    Quote Originally Posted by glow
    post-Kuwait- War Iraq; Haha well we participated in the war and one of the first nations to back it. first time since the Korean War that Canadian forces had participated in offensive combat operations.
    This ain't even a nice try and it goes to show how damned little you know. The Canadian Forces had extensive combat engagements in Cyperus; the Congo; and Lebanon before the Kuwait War.

    Quote Originally Posted by glow
    Some of our vets have gulf war syndtome too. But you say post Iraq war? LOL what the hell did the US do for Iraq post war? protected the kurds but went right back in to do bombings once then invaded it next.
    I said post-Kuwait War, idiot or can't you read? And the war wasn't finished. The Air War lasted another 11 years before the final invasion. We again let the Americans to finish what we began.

    Quote Originally Posted by glow
    Beirut Bombing Lebenon; Ummm What do you want from Canada on this one? Go send home the dead troops for you guys or what? Horrible thing that happened but I dunno why the truck wasn't stopped or how Canada should have anything to do with this one.
    We had a field hospital at CFB Lahrs, Germany. 12 hours flight time.

    Quote Originally Posted by glow
    Tanker War; Iran Iraq war? What do u want Canada to do help the US transport chemical weapons to Iraq? Or what?
    If you don't what the Tanker War was, then you can't answer correctly, can you? A Flag.

    Quote Originally Posted by glow
    North Korea atomic crisis; "China has also allowed North Korea to ship SCUD missiles through its territory for Middle Eastern customers. According to a Canadian undercover operative, North Korean agents moved dismantled SCUD missiles through China into Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iran." You don't just think Canada sits by do you?
    1) Wrong piece of intel
    2) It's the NO-DONG, not SCUD
    3) Not one thing you've posted got anything to do with nukes.

    Quote Originally Posted by glow
    China-US EP-3 Incident; You wanted us to do what?
    The Australians sent a naval task group through that area.

    Quote Originally Posted by glow
    Liberia; Canadian Foreign Affairs Minister Peter MacKay issued a statement Thursday that supported Taylor's arrest and trial of war-crimes charges. No troops just political
    The world is full of statements; doesn't help the dead and dying any. And the American intervention stopped the killings; just by showing up.

    Quote Originally Posted by glow
    Sierra Leonne; What did the US do? I'm not even familiar with this.

    Cdns did also recently go to Haiti to deal with that mess too.
    Google them for your answers. You were the one who said that we were at the American side each and everytime they needed us. It's damned obvious that we were not and certainly even your revisionism ain't going to change those facts.

    Quote Originally Posted by glow
    BTW Cdn rescue workers were also getting to Katrina survivors than some American rescue organizations
    "The suburb of 68,000 people was initially ignored by U.S. authorities who were scrambling to get aid to New Orleans. Boasso said floodwater in his parish is still 2.4 metres deep in some places."
    Boasso saved his praise for the Canadians and their quick work. "They were so glad to be here," he said. "They're still here. They are actually going door-to-door looking in the attics" for people to rescue." Where were you troops? or Fema? They were down there before a lot of US agencies were.
    And the USAF flew 1 Brigade from Edmonton to Eastern Ontario/Western Quebec during Ice Storm 98.

    So, what's your point here? The Americans are so bad that we Canadians are so superior that we're allowed to piss them off? Get off the moose. We weren't there each and everytime the Americans needed us. Sometimes, it's because we couldn't do it. Other times, it's because we don't want to do it. That's history. There's no changing it. It doesn't make us worst than the Americans but it damned does not make us better.

    Last thing, I served with the Canadian Forces.
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    Why thank you Colonel, always a pleasure to read your posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnut
    Do you believe in dinosaurs? How long did it take for them to become extinct? Paleontologists said they extincted within a "geologic blink of an eye." It is believed that a giant asteroid hit the earth roughly 65 million years ago and the dinosaurs died out within the next few hundred thousand years, a "geologic blink of an eye" if you will.
    Actually there has never been much solid evidence to link the K-T mass extinction event with an impact event. One of those neat and sexy theories that grabbed the public and academic eye for a while but has never panned out when subjected to serious scrutiny.

    But certainly a paltry 100,000 years is barely noticeable in geologic time, you are right about that.

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    7 pages of posts and lets see how much did the topic deviate from our original discussion

    UK, CANANA, AUSTRALIA, ISRAEL, JAPAN, by this order

    ISRAEL AND JAPAN are NOT the closest allies, just look at how those two countries are excluded from Intel Sharing and Joint system development

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    Come on this is easy! Canada is closer to the US, for cryin' out loud! It's bumped right up against us! The Britian is way over across that big ocean-thingy, and Australia? I couldn't even FIND it in Europe! (That's the only place that really matters, right?) Did you mean Austria? Geez, you all are Lousy spelllers! BTW, I ran into a girl who said she was from Brittany, but I think she was full of crap, 'cause she sounded french, and I thought everybody in Britian spoke english, sorta.
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