UK
Canada
Australia
Israel
[sarcasm]France[/sarcasm]
Canada, being a neighbour, naturally has far more dealings with the US than all the others combined. Most of it are not earth-shattering but far more important bread-&-butter issues.
As for earth-shattering issues, we all had our disagreements and the US has at times were even hostile to allied intentions. The Suez Crisis comes to mind when the US supported UN military intervention lead by Canada against the UK, France, and Israel.
What history shows that the supporting actions between these countries is really a game of musical chairs. Mitterand and Reagan got along fine. Trudeau couldn't stand Thatcher. And no one had a clue about Jimmy Carter.
Chimo
Hey! What the hell?
Where is my buddy Musharraf the 2 cent lackey figure in this poll????
Damnit he's the one who dumped the Taliban, flipped Pakistan's entire foreign policy over night, and dropped his pants and bent over in front of that Richard armitage ( Unkal Fester) on Sep 12th 2001! All on a whim!
God-damnit I'd like to know where does pakistan figure into being in bed with Unkal Sam!
If anyone deserves the title of a 2 cent lackey ( close ally), then By God its him!
Last edited by lulldapull; 19 Dec 04, at 20:35.
Shut the hell up, troll.
"The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it, and if one finds the prospect of a long war intolerable, it is natural to disbelieve in the possibility of victory."
- George Orwell
Oh!............. a troll???Originally Posted by Bluesman
loser
Last edited by lulldapull; 19 Dec 04, at 22:23.
What are these personal attacks for ? WHy are they being tolerated?
_____________________
when they make no laws but what they themselves and their posterity must be subject to; when they can give no money, but what they must pay their share of; when they can do no mischief, but what must fall upon their own heads in common with their countrymen; their principals may expect then good laws, little mischief, and much frugality
If he were here to contribute, I'd respond to THAT. Since he's here to spin up other posters, I'll respond to THAT.
His history and style are known, and you'll notice that he didn't want to engage on this subject: he is here throw brickbats, not to answer the question posed by the poll.
I have no intention of respecting someone that is disrespectful, and he proves himself once again to BE disrespectful by attempting to hijack the thread being discussed by rational adults.
"The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it, and if one finds the prospect of a long war intolerable, it is natural to disbelieve in the possibility of victory."
- George Orwell
I don't see anything disrespectful in suggesting that Musharraf's Pakistan be included in the list - and I would caution restraint, I don't recall anyone giving you authority to lose your temper and make your own rules.
Personal attacks simply will not suffice, I urge you to reconsider.
_____________________
when they make no laws but what they themselves and their posterity must be subject to; when they can give no money, but what they must pay their share of; when they can do no mischief, but what must fall upon their own heads in common with their countrymen; their principals may expect then good laws, little mischief, and much frugality
Read what he wrote, and tell me that was a rational response to what everybody else had posted before. If he had suggested Pakistan was America's closest ally, you and I wouldn't be having this conversation; that would have been just fine. But he didn't say that, did he?
He's started another ****-storm, which was all he wanted to do when he came in here and crapped all over this thread that was perfectly fine before he arrived.
He LOVES this stuff. I'm just sorry I'm feeding him like this, taking more notice of his worthless self because you called me out on it.
So, unless any further posts actually get back to discussing the OP and what I believe is a fine topic, I'm all done here.
No apologies. He's a contemptible troll and we all know it.
"The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it, and if one finds the prospect of a long war intolerable, it is natural to disbelieve in the possibility of victory."
- George Orwell
Well I certainly regret your short fuse and insistence that all opinions be those with which you can relate. Name calling and personal attack deprive your point of view of credibility -- just because other use humour which you do not find worthy is no reason to go off the handle.
Next thing you may want to go on a name calling and personal attack expedition against someone else - please don't do that to yourself.
_____________________
when they make no laws but what they themselves and their posterity must be subject to; when they can give no money, but what they must pay their share of; when they can do no mischief, but what must fall upon their own heads in common with their countrymen; their principals may expect then good laws, little mischief, and much frugality
This is NOT about his opinion. Like I said, if he had said that he believed Musharraf was the US's closest ally, FINE, we'd debate that.
Now I really am done with this. Do you have any opinion on the OP, yourself? Unless you're trolling, I promise that I'll respect your opinion, BECAUSE I'M ALL ABOUT HEARING WHAT OTHERS REALLY HAVE TO SAY.
You follow me, friend? I don't mind if you disagree - most people in this thread HAVE disagreed with me. But only ONE came in here to throw a stink-bomb. And he's the one I loathe.
"The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it, and if one finds the prospect of a long war intolerable, it is natural to disbelieve in the possibility of victory."
- George Orwell
For god's sake man, he's trying to be sarcastic.
Actually, yes I do an OP - I think Canada is the most allied ally. UK have their own "imperial" interests which they have sought to protect and further by joining with the Americans - whereas Cananda do not have the same kindof imperial baggage and presence and have been a consistent ally.
_____________________
when they make no laws but what they themselves and their posterity must be subject to; when they can give no money, but what they must pay their share of; when they can do no mischief, but what must fall upon their own heads in common with their countrymen; their principals may expect then good laws, little mischief, and much frugality
This is not your call to make, and you only weaken yourself if you do. File the appropriate complaint outlined in the forum rules if you request an action to be taken.
Shaking things up is one thing, but do not go to the point of insulting our intelligence. Prior to 9/11, terrorists were born and bred in Pakistan, and sent to Afghanistan for training and these actions were condoned by your buddy Musharaff. After 9/11, the US gave him an olive branch to clean up his act, and his country. Even though Musharraf made the wise choice, hardly puts him in the running as a close ally under the circumstances. Musharraf has been rewarded for his efforts by the lifting of sanctions, money, and military equipment.
Bluesman has previously defended Pakistan in another post as to their cooperation in fighting terrorism in Pakistan.
With that being said, I think you two are adult enough to continue without the personal name calling, since it is unnecessary, and not a very good example to others here at WAB.
I'm sorry but aren't you overplaying the US angle a bit? My read from both my collegues within the British MoD and the British media is that Blair stands on hiw own when it comes to the Iraq War. MI6, not the CIA, was Blair's primary instrument. Everything would indicate the Britihs public is ready to decide on Blair's poor decision and not because they think Blair is Bush's lap dog.
Even within Canada, sorry to say, but Canadian popular displeasure against BMD is not going to bring the government down. The deciding issue will unfortunately concern something with domestic policy (IE, health care).
Chimo
WTF is the Canadians problem with BMD?
Are they stupid or something?
You mean the Average Joe Canada? He's an ignorant blinder wearing guy who naively believe that everybody on earth loves Canada and that soft power is the sole reason why Canada is so well respected on earth.
When confronted with the reality that Canada's position is bought by her military, they shiver into their nice little cubby hole screaming that Canada don't have soldiers, only peacekeepers.
Sad fact is that Canadians don't care about defence matters and no matter how much the NDP and the peace loving fuzzies wuzzies want to charge this up, Canadians don't care enough about BMD to bring down a government.
Chimo
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Posting Permissions
LinkBack URL
About LinkBacks
Reply With Quote
Share this thread with friends: