View Poll Results: Favorite Republican Candidate?

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  • Sam Brownback - senior Kansas senator

    3 4.29%
  • Rudy Giuliani - former New York mayor

    9 12.86%
  • Mike Huckabee - former Arkansas governor

    3 4.29%
  • John McCain - senior Arizona senator

    20 28.57%
  • Mitt Romney - former Mass. governor

    10 14.29%
  • Tommy Thompson - former Wis. governor

    0 0%
  • Ron Paul - Texas congressman

    25 35.71%
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    because the reason why the US remains world leader is due to its ability to demonstrate that we at least listen and acknowledge their concerns.

    in all of history, the tendency has been for states to balance against the top-dog. the expenses of such a fight usually was enough to wear down said state.

    however, despite having the greatest disparity of power the world has ever known, the world largely tolerates US hegemony, seeking instead to bandwagon with the US.

    it is certainly annoying and certainly difficult, but listening and throwing at least a small sop to what other states think has been key to US global strategy since 1945. that's why the international system built by the US has lasted to this present day, which is a dam' sight better than any other contender since possibly the roman empire (which didn't exactly end up in a good shape either).

    in any case, think of it the other way around. sure, the world will moan and b*tch. but then again, think of what happens when a country has a leader the US doesn't like: say hamas in gaza, or saddam in iraq, or a-jad in iran. they get hit with sanctions or regime-change. i say we get the better end of the deal )
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    god, now i just sound preachy. i need a drink- it's been a long workweek.
    The human mind cannot grasp the causes of phenomena in the aggregate. But the need to find these causes is inherent in man’s soul. And the human intellect, without investigating the multiplicity and complexity of the conditions of phenomena, any one of which taken separately may seem to be the cause, snatches at the first, the most intelligible approximation to a cause, and says: “This is the cause!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by TopHatter View Post
    Actually it sounds about right and jibes with what that article that Ironduke posted, that Democrats will defect to McCain, as he's not a hard-core conservative.

    Looks like I just might have to reverse my own long-held prediction that the Democrats will win...(uh oh, I'm a flip-flopper now)...but then we get to listen to another 4 years of the rest of the world bytching and moaning about the GOP being in the White House.
    If Billary gets the dem nominee, McCain will crush her. All of her supposedly strong points in like experience and foreign policy, McCain owns her hands down. And the vast new dem base and black voters that Obama just drummed up will loose interest in politics and not bother to show up for the election. Even on her other strong point in economics, those making enough money to actually care about it are never going to vote for her over McCain. I know, I'm friends with a lot of them. Her offers no real advantage over McCain, but has plenty of that Clinton baggage.

    Unless you are Ann Coulter, who for some reason has become a Billary supporter now.

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    I know someone who is a Republican, and who through his job guards high level people. A couple of years ago he had the opportunity to guard McCain. According to this person, McCain is a rude jerk, whom he will not vote for.

    I will still vote for McCain because I'm a pro life Republican. But hearing this from someone who is more Republican than me, and whose a really nice kid. It's hard for me to get why McCain would be rude to someone who is basically guarding him, and it says a lot about McCain's character. This makes me not so happy about McCain being the Republican choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beka View Post
    I know someone who is a Republican, and who through his job guards high level people. A couple of years ago he had the opportunity to guard McCain. According to this person, McCain is a rude jerk, whom he will not vote for.
    Examples? What were the circumstances?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAD_333 View Post
    Examples? What were the circumstances?
    I think I gave you all the details I can gave you. There are a few more details I guess I could give, but I would rather not go into this persons job on a public message board. Besides, this person normally doesn't going into details about what was said by public figures. He just might say, well this person, was extremely nice. I got the idea that McCain was extremely rude to this person/as well as some others...

    Since other reports I've heard, have said that McCain has a terrible temper, and can hold some grudges. This person's account is not that far off. Still I know this person, and I know that he is a die hard Republican, PRo Bush all the way, and for this person to be completely against McCain to the point of voting for a Democrat, I have to conclude that McCain must have been extremely rude.
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    Are you sure ?

    World bandwagon with America? who ? which nations?

    How many reliable allies, ? How many have join us?
    Even some of our Nato allies forbid us to use their air space to refuel ?

    The World Knows that America can be smear, can be insulted and due to the political-economical-cultural elite , ( regardless of their party affiliation?)
    usually such attacks are not respond

    The Reagan era was one of the last time when an administration was assertive not just for showcase and short term but for long term, both ideologically and dealing with toughness real one with our enemies and allies

    But Since the 1950's from the Truman era and later increasingly since the Republican Nixon era when Detente and the Council of Foreign Relations( World Order ) ruled , usually the worlds knows that America can be slap and will turn the other cheek most of the time


    Sadly , however, I hope that more Reagan, Jacksons , TR , will make a come back and many Republicans are looking beyond the party for alternatives

    The Conservative, Constitutional, The Libertarian, alternatives exists and many Americans are waking up to the reality that we need to take back the power to the people and to make clear that we are One Nation, One Nationality, One loyalty , and we should not allow that the Elites and their followers , of all stripes and even religious affiliations maybe due to the confusion of the political landscape , maybe due to be mislead, well the Elites are leading American down the slippery road

    Neither our president Bush or the Clinton or the Obama or Hillary or even Mc Cain, are reliable defender of our Constitution and our Nationality or strong Bulwark against Balkanization and Split Loyalties or Defender of One Strong Sense of American Nationality Against the Hydra of Multi Cultural Identities

    But we have choices alternatives and we should fight for the future of America which is not necessary in the hands of one party or another but in the hands of every Lover of America identity, nationality and Constitution

    and such love is not the monopoly of the Republicans, the Baptist or any one

    Behavior proof better than words the love for America

    Quote Originally Posted by astralis View Post
    km,

    because the reason why the US remains world leader is due to its ability to demonstrate that we at least listen and acknowledge their concerns.

    in all of history, the tendency has been for states to balance against the top-dog. the expenses of such a fight usually was enough to wear down said state.

    however, despite having the greatest disparity of power the world has ever known, the world largely tolerates US hegemony, seeking instead to bandwagon with the US.

    it is certainly annoying and certainly difficult, but listening and throwing at least a small sop to what other states think has been key to US global strategy since 1945. that's why the international system built by the US has lasted to this present day, which is a dam' sight better than any other contender since possibly the roman empire (which didn't exactly end up in a good shape either).

    in any case, think of it the other way around. sure, the world will moan and b*tch. but then again, think of what happens when a country has a leader the US doesn't like: say hamas in gaza, or saddam in iraq, or a-jad in iran. they get hit with sanctions or regime-change. i say we get the better end of the deal )

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    hm, didn't notice this as new until now.

    pb,

    evidence that the world bandwagons with america? easy- how many countries support/want to join the US-led international system and how many countries oppose it? which countries?

    now compare this with what the nazis or imperial japanese faced, or what even a relatively benevolent british empire faced.
    The human mind cannot grasp the causes of phenomena in the aggregate. But the need to find these causes is inherent in man’s soul. And the human intellect, without investigating the multiplicity and complexity of the conditions of phenomena, any one of which taken separately may seem to be the cause, snatches at the first, the most intelligible approximation to a cause, and says: “This is the cause!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by beka View Post
    I know someone who is a Republican, and who through his job guards high level people. A couple of years ago he had the opportunity to guard McCain. According to this person, McCain is a rude jerk, whom he will not vote for.

    I will still vote for McCain because I'm a pro life Republican. But hearing this from someone who is more Republican than me, and whose a really nice kid. It's hard for me to get why McCain would be rude to someone who is basically guarding him, and it says a lot about McCain's character. This makes me not so happy about McCain being the Republican choice.
    Many of the people who have worked with Mccain and served with him in the Navy would disagree. He has friends across the aisles. George Day would probably disagree as well.

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    I have more time for McCain than other presidential nominees - mainly because he is more upfront about his policies - and has a short temper that suits him. He's been upfront when it hasn't been politically expedient to do so. He's made a series of Gaffes - but moderates don't care about that & neither do I. He's been a reformer, and has undoubtably copped a lot a **** in his lifetime. Moreso through the runoff against bush which I thought was enourmously unfair treatment by Karl Rove and G.W.B.

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