Thread: Should Blue States Join Canada?

Originally Posted by NeoLiberal

Are the cities called blue or the whole state?

ive seen maps of both, if you look at the district voting, most of the blue is in or around big cities, if you mean as far as the electoral vote? i doubt you as a liberal would want to even go there, what with your contempt for the electoral college, are you going to be hipocritical of the liberal party and use it now because it fits your purpouse?

Originally Posted by NeoLiberal

You don't see any cultural divide between the a Bush voter and a Kerry voter?

nope, bush believes in the war in iraq, so does kerry, bush believes abortion is wrong, so does kerry, bush thinks mariage should be between a man and a woman, so does kerry bush believes in the war on terrorism, so does kerry.

the super majority (this includes most democrats) believe that partial birth abortion is wrong, that gay marriage is wrong, that the war on terror is nesecary, as a matter of fact most american agree on mostly everything, the only thing seperating this country right now is special interest, and iraq.

Originally Posted by Lucien LaCroix

First of all, it's called the United States of America, not "Jesusland." I point this out to you not as a matter of educating you, but as a matter of objecting to your naming convention as a broad-based swipe at a sizeable portion of the country for which you obviously have contempt for.

You are right on this one, even if all the blue states join United States of Cananda, the rest of the red states together would still be large enough to be called United States of America, not Jesusland.

Second, individual states cannot simply stop being a part of the United States. This country has already had one war over that issue.

I believe you are wrong on this one. An individual state can secede through a refrendum held in that state.

Third, regardless of any similarity these political dissenters may or may not have with another country's culture, yes, I blame them. I blame them for having such a childish approach to problem-solving. I blame them for the unmitigated hatred that would motivate them to take such an action. I blame the for the insult directed at the remaining citizens that such an action would be designed to represent. I blame them for the smug righteousness such people would have in believing that they are entitled to divide this country up as if it were community property in some sort of divorce settlement. And I blame them for the monsterous ego that has them convinced that such a dissolution is necessary.

You are putting all the blame on progressive liberals that in my opinion is unfair. You should blame the religious right wing who are driving the blue states to comtemplate such drastic step.

However, I will grant one thing. Removing them from the "federal payroll," would give the rest of the nation a needed respite while providing them with a much needed lesson of paying your own way in life. And while Canada might be initially overjoyed by the prospect of adding a bevy of citizens from south of its natural border, the honeymoon would quickly be over once Canadian citizens realized just how much give was necessary in coexisting with their new brethren's philosophy of give-and-take, both politically and fiscally.

If the blue states join Canada them the rest of the nation can get permanent respite!

Originally Posted by donnie

ive seen maps of both, if you look at the district voting, most of the blue is in or around big cities, if you mean as far as the electoral vote? i doubt you as a liberal would want to even go there, what with your contempt for the electoral college, are you going to be hipocritical of the liberal party and use it now because it fits your purpouse?

A blue state is called blue because majority of the people of the state voted Democrat. Color of the state is not linked to electoral votes.

nope, bush believes in the war in iraq, so does kerry, bush believes abortion is wrong, so does kerry, bush thinks mariage should be between a man and a woman, so does kerry bush believes in the war on terrorism, so does kerry.

the super majority (this includes most democrats) believe that partial birth abortion is wrong, that gay marriage is wrong, that the war on terror is nesecary, as a matter of fact most american agree on mostly everything, the only thing seperating this country right now is special interest, and iraq.

Kerry believes in Iraq war? May be you did not hear his campaign speach "Iraq war was wrong war at the wrong time". His personal belief aside, Kerry is pro-choice, Bush is anti-choice. So have been wrong on two counts so far.

But I will concede one thing I did not frame my question correctly, may be I should have asked the difference between a conservative voter who in general votes Republican and a progressive liberal voter who in general votes Democrat. I think you would agree that there is a profound cultural difference between them. The divide is real, confirmation of which comes from the nearly identical red-blue state maps of 2000 and 2004.