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    The Morning After

    A great blog piece i just read, thought i'd share it:
    Buckle up. I've got a lot to say today.

    As the whole world knows by now, it is pretty evident that George W. Bush will be the President of the United States for the next four years. Obviously, that makes me happy.

    A lot of people are having some trouble with my happiness right now. That goes for you, too, if you voted for GWB. A flow of nastiness is seeping from through the floors of the country, pooling around the feet of the collective left.

    But which left, you ask? Because sometimes, people will come after me for saying 'the left" as if that phrase represented everyone who sits, well, to the left of me and not just the wingers, even though they know full well I mean the Michael Moores, the DU citizens, the Oliver Willises and MoveOn members of the world.

    Not so sure about that today. I woke up to a very different world in which people I assumed were rational Democrats are spitting poison nails. I received some nasty emails and comments (since deleted) that were alarming in their venom and hatred. People I never had a harsh word with were suddenly knocking down my virtual door to leaving the equivalent of letter bombs. This did not frighten me so much as make me sad. I can say with all honesty that, had Kerry won this election, I would have done no such thing. But, that's just me.

    I did read through some of the near lunatic fringe of the left today. Sad state of affairs, really. They seem to be so overcome by bitterness and anger that their emotions are getting in the way of rational thinking. How else do you explain the call to arms, the threats to join al Qaeda, the pleas for violent uprising, or the wishful thinking for a terrorist attack to happen now?

    And here we go again with the "illegitimate" election fantasies. The whole basis of argument for the left in recent times has been "if I don't agree with it, it must be a lie." This has never been more evident than right now. Witness: This election is a fraud, a sham. The Republicans (sorry, Rethuglicans) cheated their way through another vote. The vote counts are all wrong. The machines were fixed. Someone was paid off. And, of course, the exit polls were rigged. Even if Bush were to win both the Electoral vote and the popular vote, his win would be decried as illegal. Perhaps that is what is driving the hate today; the fact that there is nothing to point to in order to support the cries of another fake presidency.

    I do believe that even if every person in America who voted for George Bush marched themselves in front of a line of lefties outside of George Soros's mansion this morning and pledged that they did, indeed, vote for GWB, they would claim that Karl Rove implanted mind control chips in each and every person.

    Why is it so hard to imagine that not everyone thinks like you? Are these people so arrogant, so self-smug that they truly believe their way is the only way? Funny, that. They accuse Bush of that all the time and here they are engaging in it, with relish.

    If you don't mind, I'd like to address the throngs of Chicken Littles who seem to be out in full force on the net today. I just want to clear up a few things, as you all seem to be pretty misguided in more than one area today.

    I voted for George Bush.
    I am not a redneck.
    I do not spend my days watching cars race around a track, drinking cheap beer and slapping my woman on the ass.
    I am not a bible thumper. In fact, I am an atheist.
    I am not a homophobe.
    I am educated beyond the fifth grade. In fact, I am college educated.
    I am not stupid. Not by any stretch of facts.
    I do not bomb abortion clinics.

    You will not be thrown in jail for the sole reason of being a liberal.
    Your child's public school will not suddenly turn into a center for Christian brainwashing.
    Your favorite bookstore will not turn into puritan central.

    This is not Nazi Germany in any way.
    You will not be forced into concentration camps.
    You will not be burned in human-sized ovens because of your religion.
    We will not be forced to wear uniforms and march in line every day.
    You will not live in fear.
    If you think this is a country in which you have to live in fear, I have some friends in Iran who would like to have a little talk with you.

    What does the (presumed) election of George Bush mean to you, as a member of the left? It means you and your party have four years to get yourselves together and figure out exactly what you stand for. It means you have a couple of years, max, to come up with a viable candidate who represents the majority of you and doesn't pander to every knock off group of your party. It means you have time to get your act together and decide once and for all what you stand for and produce a leader who will stand up for your ideals. It means you better find a candidate who is someone you can vote for with conscience, and not just vote for out of hatred for his opponent.

    What did you all believe in this year? Hate? Anger? You ran your own campaign, one filled to the brim with bile and acidic spittle and you wonder why you feel so black today? You were pinning your hopes on the the wish that the rest of America harbored the same intense hatred as you and would vote with their clenched fists. Now that you are left without the hoped for victory party as an outlet for your rage, you have to direct it somewhere else. If not at the candidate, then at his voters, right? What I am seeing today makes me pity you, and it's a pity tinged with disgust and should not be mistaken for empathy.

    It means the same things for us moderate Republicans. Maybe in this time we can produce a candidate who doesn't alienate the social liberal in us, yet speaks to our concerns about defense, security and the war on terror. I am not completely enamored with the Republican Party. There's a lot of work to be done within the ranks. I'd like to see a full stop of the move towards the religious right.

    Perhaps there is the perfect candidate out there for both of us, someone just making his or her way up the political chain right now. With any luck, there will be a day when a president is elected who is liked by both sides of the fence, who is respected by everyone.

    And that's the great thing about waking up today. See, the world is still here. The sun has risen, there were no great floods or earthquakes or visits from Lucifer during the night. We have the future. We can all - Republicans, Democrats and everyone else - learn a lot from this election and use those lessons to move this country forward.

    Sure, it's easy for me to say those things while I'm sitting in the victor's chair at the moment. But I believe in my heart that if Kerry were today making a victory speech, I would feel the same way.

    I certainly wouldn't be calling for violent action. I would not be threatening total strangers with death or wishing ill will on them.

    But this is a left that is buttressed by people who have more bile than good will, more venom than virtue. They are fronted by circus sideshow acts like Michael Moore, who turn up the flames underneath their followers until the kettle is whistling like mad. That is the shrill sound you hear coming from the left today. And I fear no one is going to turn the flame down.

    We are living out the proverbial Chinese curse of living in interesting times. I do hope with all my heart that we can turn down the hate at some point and make the next four years a little less interesting.
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    I am not a redneck.
    I do not spend my days watching cars race around a track, drinking cheap beer and slapping my woman on the ass.
    I am not a bible thumper. In fact, I am an atheist.
    I am not a homophobe.
    I am educated beyond the fifth grade. In fact, I am college educated.
    I am not stupid. Not by any stretch of facts.
    I do not bomb abortion clinics
    Then how does he explain that he voted for Bush?
    Last edited by Ghostbuster; 05 Nov 04, at 17:17.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostbuster
    Then how does he explain that he voted for Bush?
    If you have to ask that, then maybe you are one of the left he discribes in his post.

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    She. She was one of the many women who defected to the GOP vs last time. =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostbuster
    Then how does he explain that he voted for Bush?
    You prove exactly why you didn't win, stop being such an ******* if I can be blunt. Middle Americans are not stupid and don't deserve this **** from your arogant buddies.

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    Nice one Gio, thanks...
    No man is free until all men are free - John Hossack
    I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq-John Kerry
    even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry
    He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Confed999
    Nice one Gio, thanks...
    People take this whole redneck thing to far ... yeah im sure their are parts of the rural deep South where people live in trailer homes and drive around in puickup trucks waving shotguns and sit around on couches on their front lawns sharing a beer with the good ol boys but for the most part I doubt the real South is like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gio
    You prove exactly why you didn't win, stop being such an ******* if I can be blunt. Middle Americans are not stupid and don't deserve this **** from your arogant buddies.
    If winning means compromising my principle and siding with the gay bashing and bible thumping crowed, I would rather not win.
    When these people get enoguh education and become better informed, they will come around.

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    Going by the post in the threads here, the Southerners are not taken to be rather clever. In fact, they are taken to be hilliybillies, hicks and rednecks.

    There is a belief that the NE is the educated belt and California is too way out to be typified.

    While I wouldn't say there is much unhappiness anywhere in the world that Bush has won, yet there is a belief that the moral issue swung the votes and the security stuff took a backseat. In fact, the real issues that affect the American way of life got obfuscated.

    That is the 'outsider' view.

    What is it in so far as the opinion of the US folks?
    Last edited by Ray; 06 Nov 04, at 14:51.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostbuster
    siding with the gay bashing
    When has the Bush administration bashed gays?
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostbuster
    bible thumping crowed
    What's wrong with believing in God?
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostbuster
    When these people get enoguh education and become better informed, they will come around.
    That's what they say about liberals too.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray
    the Southerners are not taken to be rather clever.
    That's the stereotype. It, like most other generalizations, is false. It's a hold over from the northern carpetbaggers of the civil war.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray
    In fact, they are taken to be hilliybillies, hicks and rednecks.
    The people who are those things, are often proud of it. My mother's family are hillbillies, they live off the land, and mine coal, and make shine, in the hills and mountains from West Virginia to Alabama. (City folk couldn't do the same, but somehow hillbillies are dumb.) My father's family are rednecks, the term redneck refers to the color of the back of the neck after years of working outdoors. (Again, doing tasks city folk can't do.) About a quarter of my total family are hicks, they haven't been in an urban area enough to understand it yet, and from my point of view I envy them that. (Out in the woods, on the farm, or in most rural settings they could make a city person look like a moron.) Everyone has their strengths, and we all need each other, no matter what the stereotypers, the bitter, and the biggots, have to say about it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray
    there is a belief that the moral issue swung the votes and the security stuff took a backseat.
    My vote was for morality and security, but I am just one voice of more than a hundred million voters.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray
    In fact, the real issues that affect the American way of life got obfuscated.
    I'm not sure what issues weren't argued in this election.
    No man is free until all men are free - John Hossack
    I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq-John Kerry
    even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry
    He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisF202
    People take this whole redneck thing to far ... yeah im sure their are parts of the rural deep South where people live in trailer homes and drive around in puickup trucks waving shotguns and sit around on couches on their front lawns sharing a beer with the good ol boys but for the most part I doubt the real South is like that.
    whats wrong with drinking beer on a sofa on your front lawn anyway? That should only give rednecks a good name in my opinion.

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    Hank Hill =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostbuster
    When these people get enoguh education and become better informed, they will come around.
    So you know just how educated each and every one of these people are?
    Talk about arrogant.....

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    The fact is simple. The vast majority of those on this forum who supported Bush would be spitting nails if Kerry won. DO NOT DENY IT!!! This is true and you know it. The threads would be filled up with comments like, "chalk one up for terrorism!" You people keep calling us arrogant for supporting Kerry. Yes, we lost. Bush won the popular and the electoral. We don't deny it. Don't however pretend that it wasn't close. This country is evenly divided on this issue. We can't say that all Bush supporters are war-mongering redneck bible-thumpers and you can't say that all Kerry supporters are leftist would-be socialists. There are a good plenty of people in this country that vote for the man rather than the party. I am one of those people. I don't like GW, period. This is a man who would never have elevated to the presidency, or any public office for that matter without his family name and connections.

    Please don't say that we are taking it bad when you know for a fact that would Kerry have won. The GOP would be raising kane right now.
    "And a political candidate who jumps to conclusions without knowing the facts is not a person you want as your Commander-in-Chief." - George W. Bush - October, 2004.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fonnicker
    The fact is simple. The vast majority of those on this forum who supported Bush would be spitting nails if Kerry won. DO NOT DENY IT!!!
    I'm not sure I would be, I figured we were screwed either way.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fonnicker
    Don't however pretend that it wasn't close.
    That's what I keep saying.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fonnicker
    This country is evenly divided on this issue.
    The people are divided, the country is predominately red.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fonnicker
    We can't say that all Bush supporters are war-mongering redneck bible-thumpers and you can't say that all Kerry supporters are leftist would-be socialists.
    Yep, I wouldn't guess 5% of either one.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fonnicker
    There are a good plenty of people in this country that vote for the man rather than the party. I am one of those people. I don't like GW, period.
    IMHO, current issues are more important than the man, but the man still counts.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fonnicker
    The GOP would be raising kane right now.
    Politics.
    No man is free until all men are free - John Hossack
    I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq-John Kerry
    even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry
    He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry

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