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  1. 20 Oct 04, 14:44 #76
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    I am one of those people who is fundamentally locked in an "I don't know" position. I agree with both sides to be honest, and I think I reflect a good percentage of the population. It isn't a black and white issue. It is debatable IMO.

    On a side track...My wife and I are eager to adopt a baby, but like most people we find it to be extremely expensive. There is no way you are going to be able to adopt internationally or domestically without forking over approx. 15,000 dollars, even through the state. If you decide to go private which we have tried as well, the expecting mothers get to chose. Good luck with that if you are middle-income and not affiliated with a church. People wait 5 plus years for a domestically born new-born to adopt.

    The second problem you face is the possibility that up to a year into your new family, the birth mother can reclaim the child from you. Only through international adoption can you avoid this. There are a lot of really good people out there who cannot have children who would make excellent parents. When I hear about an abortion, I can't help but think, "We would have loved that baby!"
    "And a political candidate who jumps to conclusions without knowing the facts is not a person you want as your Commander-in-Chief." - George W. Bush - October, 2004.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco Lolan
    ABORTION IS MURDER.
    not always true in my opinion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Franco Lolan
    John Kerry has stated that he feels life begins at conception: that a human being is in the womb. BUT, he thinks its OK to 1-allocate funding towards abortion + 2-allow it to occur !!! KILLING HUMAN BEINGS IS MURDER. PERIOD.
    yes this is a quandry, i could understand his thought about abortion if he actualy thought that life began at some point other than at conception, i agree that if he feels life begins at conception then he should believe that abortion after that point should be illegal, it doesnt make sense to me otherwise.

    Quote Originally Posted by Franco Lolan
    Furthermore, your Constitutional basis is weak. You repeatadly hearken to opinion polls (public opinion means nothing in the eyes of the Law {Justice Marshal}) while ignoring the Constitutional basis of Roe v. Wade (or lack of) and the stipulations the ruling prescribed.
    i have a feeling that roe vs wade will eventualy become irelevent.

    Quote Originally Posted by Franco Lolan
    Believing something is murder and not stopping it is not right.
    [remember trial of Asst Stf SGt Hennel].
    i agree

    Quote Originally Posted by Franco Lolan
    Abortion is a Legal Holocaust.
    perhaps at some level, but i wouldnt say that all abortions = holocaust
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