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    Giuliani takes first step toward '08 presidential bid

    POSTED: 6:44 p.m. EST, November 13, 2006

    NEW YORK (CNN) -- Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani took the first step toward a possible 2008 White House bid by forming a presidential exploratory committee.

    A document from the New York Department of State says Giuliani made the initial filing Friday.

    Giuliani, 62, joins Rep. Duncan Hunter of California, chairman of the powerful Armed Services Committee, as the only Republican to officially form an exploratory committee.

    Democratic Gov. Tom Vilsack of Iowa formed an exploratory committee Thursday, making him the only Democrat to officially do so.

    Federal election law allows individuals to travel and gauge their level of support without formally declaring their candidacy, which would subject them to federal fundraising rules, according to The Associated Press.

    An individual who spends money only to test the waters, rather than officially campaign for office, does not have to register as a candidate, AP reported.

    A graduate of New York University Law School, Giuliani joined the U.S. Attorney's Office in 1970 and was appointed U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York in 1983. Giuliani lost his first bid for New York mayor in 1989 by the closest margin in city history.

    In 1993, Giuliani was elected the first Republican mayor in two decades, and he was re-elected in 1997. In May 2000, Giuliani announced he would not challenge Hillary Clinton for her Senate seat because he wanted to focus on fighting early-stage prostate cancer.

    According to a recent CNN poll, Giuliani is a favorite among Republican voters or independents who lean Republican.

    The survey, conducted October 27-29 by Opinion Research Corp., indicates that 29 percent of Republican voters would "most likely" support Giuliani for their party's presidential nomination in 2008. (Read the full poll results)

    Runners-up included Sen. John McCain, with 27 percent, and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, with 12 percent. The poll of 401 Republican leaning voters had a sampling error of plus or minus 5 percent.

    http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/11/...ent/index.html

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    A McCain Pres, Giuliani VP ticket could be very hard to beat
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    True, but that will never be the ticket. It would totally alienate the Christian right base. They might tolerate one of them (and probably only as VP), but both? I can't see it happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZFBoxcar View Post
    True, but that will never be the ticket. It would totally alienate the Christian right base. They might tolerate one of them (and probably only as VP), but both? I can't see it happening.
    I have to agree. McCain, I believe, is top dog on the Republican ticket, and if he finds a suitable running mate to seal the conservative base, I believe he will have a good chance at it.

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    McCain screwed himself with his horrifying "Campaign Finance Reform" bill and his Gang of 14. He is the symbol of what conservative Republicans rejected in the election last week. If they run him it will be a tough sell to the base. Giuliani has issues too but I personally much prefer him. McCain should go away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalem View Post
    McCain screwed himself with his horrifying "Campaign Finance Reform" bill and his Gang of 14. He is the symbol of what conservative Republicans rejected in the election last week. If they run him it will be a tough sell to the base. Giuliani has issues too but I personally much prefer him. McCain should go away.

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    According to the polling report, he is the most popular candidate. I kinda liked his "pork barrel spending" theme. I think he went too far on the torture issue though.

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    What was his Campaign Finance Reform bill?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZFBoxcar View Post
    What was his Campaign Finance Reform bill?
    H.R. 2356, the "Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002," which regulates the financing of political campaigns. It is also known as the McCain–Feingold Bill, after its chief sponsors, Senators John McCain (Republican of Arizona) and Russ Feingold (Democrat of Wisconsin). The law became effective on 6 November 2002, the new legal limits became effective on 1 January 2003.

    First, it prevents unions and corporations from making unregulated, "soft" money contributions. Often, these groups take political action without the consent of their members or shareholders, so that the influence of these groups on elections does not necessarily comport with the actual views of the individuals who comprise these organizations.

    Second, this law will raise the decades-old limits on giving imposed on individuals who wish to support the candidate of their choice, thereby advancing my stated principle that election reform should strengthen the role of individual citizens in the political process.

    Third, this legislation creates new disclosure requirements and compels speedier compliance with existing ones, which will promote the free and swift flow of information to the public regarding the activities of groups and individuals in the political process.

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea.../20020327.html

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    To sum it up, his Campaign Finance "Reform" bill made it legal to give millions to political groups (a la the 527s that got so much press during the 2004 election) but no one could give me (for example) more than a few thousand as a candidate. So it keeps people without vast personal finaces from being viable candidates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenRoethig View Post
    A McCain Pres, Giuliani VP ticket could be very hard to beat
    Impossible to beat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M21Sniper View Post
    Impossible to beat.
    How about a Hillary Clinton-Howard Dean ticket?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironduke View Post
    How about a Hillary Clinton-Howard Dean ticket?
    Ha-ha....what about a Newt Gingrich-Pat Buchanan ticket?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironduke View Post
    How about a Hillary Clinton-Howard Dean ticket?
    That's impossible to win.
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    Impossible to beat.
    I would vote for them, too bad the Reps would probably find some total wack job to run against the Dem wack job leaving me to find the wack job who offends me the most and vote against him/her.
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