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    Evangelical Leader Accused of Gay Affair Resigns

    Evangelical Leader Accused of Gay Affair Resigns
    Admits Buying Meth, Denies Having Sex
    By CATHERINE TSAI, AP

    COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (Nov. 3) - Evangelist Ted Haggard admitted Friday that he bought methamphetamine and received a massage from a gay prostitute who claims he was paid for drug-fueled trysts by the outspoken gay marriage opponent.

    Rev. Haggard said he "never had a gay relationship with anybody, and I'm steady with my wife, I'm faithful to my wife."

    Haggard resigned Thursday as president of the National Association of Evangelicals and stepped down as leader of his Colorado megachurch while the two groups investigate the allegations.

    Talking to reporters outside his house Friday, Haggard denied the sex allegations but said that he did buy meth from the man because he was curious.

    "I bought it for myself but never used it," he said. "I was tempted, but I never used it."

    Haggard, a married father of five, said he never had sex with Mike Jones, a 49-year-old male prostitute who sparked the scandal when he told a radio station he had had a three-year sexual relationship with the minister. He said he did get a massage from Jones after being referred to him by a Denver hotel.

    Haggard resigned as president of the 30 million-member association Thursday and stepped down as the leader of the New Life Church pending investigations into Jones' claims.

    The executive committee of the National Association of Evangelicals, which claims 30 million members, planned a conference call Friday and said it would release a statement afterward.

    The acting pastor of Haggard 's New Life Church, Ross Parsley, told congregants in an e-mail that the church's four-member board of overseers had met with Haggard on Thursday.

    "It is important for you to know that he confessed to the overseers that some of the accusations against him are true. He has willingly and humbly submitted to the authority of the board of overseers, and will remain on administrative leave during the course of the investigation," the e-mail stated.

    The scandal hit as voters in Colorado and seven other states are getting ready to decide Tuesday on amendments banning gay marriage. Besides the proposed ban on the Colorado ballot, a separate measure would establish the legality of domestic partnerships providing same-sex couples with many of the rights of married couples.

    Members of Haggard 's 14,000-member megachurch were stunned.

    "It's political, right before the elections," said Brian Boals, a New Life member for 17 years.

    Church member E.J. Cox, 25, called the claims "ridiculous."

    "People are always saying stuff about Pastor Ted," she said. "You just sort of blow it off. He's just like anyone else in the public eye."

    Jones said he decided to go public because he was also upset when he discovered Haggard and the New Life Church had publicly opposed same-sex marriage.

    "It made me angry that here's someone preaching about gay marriage and going behind the scenes having gay sex," he said.

    "I just want people to step back and take a look and say, 'Look, we're all sinners, we all have faults, but if two people want to get married, just let them, and let them have a happy life,"' said Jones, who added that he isn't working for any political group.

    Jones claimed that Haggard , 50, paid him to have sex nearly every month over three years. He said he advertised himself as an escort on the Internet and was contacted by a man who called himself Art, who snorted methamphetamine before their sexual encounters to heighten his experience.

    Jones said he later saw the man on television identified as Haggard and that the two last had sex in August.

    He said he has voice mail messages from Haggard , as well as an envelope he said Haggard used to mail him cash. He declined to make the voice mails available to the AP, but KUSA-TV reported what it said were excerpts late Thursday that referred to methamphetamine.

    "Hi Mike, this is Art," one call began, according to the station. "Hey, I was just calling to see if we could get any more. Either $100 or $200 supply."

    A second message, left a few hours later, began: "Hi Mike, this is Art, I am here in Denver and sorry that I missed you. But as I said, if you want to go ahead and get the stuff, then that would be great. And I'll get it sometime next week or the week after or whenever."

    Haggard was appointed president of the evangelicals association in March 2003. He has participated in conservative Christian leaders' conference calls with White House staffers and lobbied members of Congress last year on U.S. Supreme Court appointees after Sandra Day O'Connor announced her retirement.

    After Massachusetts legalized gay marriage in 2004, Haggard and others began organizing state-by-state opposition. Last year, Haggard and officials from the nearby Christian ministry Focus on the Family announced plans to push Colorado's gay marriage ban for the 2006 ballot.

    At the time, Haggard said that he believed marriage is a union between a man and woman rooted in centuries of tradition, and that research shows it's the best family unit for children.
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    Associated Press Writer Dan Elliott contributed to this report from Denver.


    11/3/2006 14:35 EST

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    Ok so

    All the politicks aside here. Is the drug sellin' hooker gonna go to jail now that he's admitted that he's a meth dealin whore?

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    I was initially dubious, when I heard the charges. It sounded too pat; too much like a put up job.

    But today, it appears that the good reverend has admitted to buying meth from the accuser. But he didn't take any. He didn't inhale. Give me a break. And what sort of drug newbie starts off with Meth?

    He also admitted to getting a massage from the guy, but no sex.

    This is starting to sould like the criminal in the interrogation room, trying to talk his way out from under a couple of saavy, hard boiled detectives. Play their cards right, and he'll spill the whole can of beans.

    Methinks the reverend is not quite so reverend.
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    Have ya noticed?

    The first response is, no no no no nothing happend.

    The second response is, well except for a little of this and that.

    Foley says nothing happend, well except for some chat sex.

    The priest that molested him says, nothing happend, well, except for a lot of naked massages and hot tub time between me and a 13 year old.

    This guy says, nothing happend. Well, except I bought the drugs didn't use em, and got a massage, but he only used one finger for it.

    Gary Condit says, nothing happend. Well except for. . . wait, Chandra who?

    Seems to be a pattern now of deny and then admit a little to look forthcoming. Oh, then run to rehab so the reporters can't find ya. This guy will be in drug rehab by the end of next week.

    This stuff doesn't even make 'news of the weird' anymore.

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    A real swinging Reverend who never lies!

    Go tell it to the Marines!



    (Explanation lest Sniper gets ballistic:

    tell it to the Marines

    Go fool someone else because I won't believe that. For example, He's a millionaire? Tell it to the Marines! This term originated among British sailors, who regarded marines as naive and gullible. [c. 1800] )


    Sniper,

    The British sailors regarded marines as naive and gullible. I don't.


    "Some have learnt many Tricks of sly Evasion, Instead of Truth they use Equivocation, And eke it out with mental Reservation, Which is to good Men an Abomination."

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    Ousted Evangelist Confesses to Followers
    By COLLEEN SLEVIN, AP

    COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (Nov. 5) - Saying he was a "deceiver and liar" who had given into his dark side, the Rev. Ted Haggard confessed to sexual immorality Sunday in a letter read from the pulpit of the megachurch he founded.

    The disgraced former president of the National Evangelical Association, which represents 30 million evangelical Christians, said "because of pride, I began deceiving those I love the most because I didn't want to hurt or disappoint them."

    In a letter that was read to the congregation of the New Life Church by another clergyman, Haggard apologized for his acts and requested forgiveness. Neither Haggard nor his wife, Gayle, attended.

    "I am so sorry for the circumstances that have caused shame and embarrassment for all of you," he said, adding that he had confused the situation by giving inconsistent remarks to reporters denying the scandal.

    "The fact is I am guilty of sexual immorality. And I take responsibility for the entire problem. I am a deceiver and a liar. There's a part of my life that is so repulsive and dark that I have been warring against it for all of my adult life," he said.


    Haggard resigned last week as NEA president, where he held sway in Washington and condemned homosexuality, after a man claimed to have had drug-fueled homosexual trysts with him. Haggard also placed himself on administrative leave from the New Life Church, which has 14,000 members, but its independent Overseer Board fired him on Saturday.

    In his letter, Haggard said "the accusations made against me are not all true but enough of them are that I was appropriately removed from my church leadership position."

    He did not give details on which accusations were true.

    At least one national evangelical leader saw the confession as a possible opening for better relations between gay activists and evangelicals. "There is something good, believe it or not, that could come out of this. My hope and prayer is that this whole tawdry affair will lessen some of the vitriol that has gone on between gay rights activists and evangelicals," said Rich Cizik, vice president of the NEA.

    "I had always expected him to do the right thing. God bless him," Cizik added.

    Ryan Price and his finance, Karen Geyer, of Colorado Springs, also were impressed. "It seemed genuine - from the heart. It's unfortunate but it happens," said Geyer. "He's reaching out and asking for forgiveness," said Price.

    Jessa Schreiber, a Christian therapist from Hamilton. Ohio, who also attended the service, said the timing was good because the whole world was watching because of the Tuesday elections. "I think God ordained this time to show the love of Christians for one another and above all his love for us and the need for the savior."

    The Haggard letter was read to the church by the Rev. Larry Stockstill, senior pastor of Bethany World Prayer Center in Baker, La., and a member of the board that fired him.

    Youngsters were sent out of the room before elders began speaking about the church crisis.

    "Worshippers are always challenged by crisis. And when tragedy and crisis strikes it is at that moment that you truly decide if you are a worshipper of the most high god. And today as the worship pastor of this church I am very proud of you," said the Rev. Ross Parsley, who has replaced Haggard.

    "I am so grateful for the government system in place here at this church. ... The speed with which things were dealt with this week has been a testimony to the godliness, to the integrity and authority of the overseers of the board of this church," he said.

    Haggard, 50, had acknowledged on Friday that he paid Mike Jones of Denver for a massage and for methamphetamine, but said he did not have sex with him and did not take the drug.

    The Overseer Board, made up clergy from various churches, used stronger language.

    "Our investigation and Pastor Haggard's public statements have proven without a doubt that he has committed sexually immoral conduct," the board said in a statement.

    The NEA, representing 30 million evangelicals, named the Rev. Leith Anderson, senior pastor of Wooddale Church in Eden Prairie, Minn., as its interim president.

    Jones said in a telephone interview Sunday: "I am sad for him and his family. I know this is a tough day for him also. I wish him well. I wish his family well. My intent was never to destroy his family. My intent was to expose a hypocrite.

    "I hope the healing process can start. I welcome his request for forgiveness for me."

    Haggard's situation is a disappointment to Christian conservatives, whom President Bush and other Republicans are courting heavily in the run-up to Tuesday's election.

    Many were already disheartened with the president and the Republican-controlled Congress over their failure to deliver big gains on social issues even before the congressional page scandal involving former Rep. Mark Foley.

    Haggard, who had been president of the evangelical association since 2003, has participated in conference calls with White House staffers and lobbied Congress last year on Supreme Court nominees.

    Haggard founded New Life in the mid-1980s and held its first services in the basement of his Colorado Springs home.

    Jones, who said he is gay, said he was upset when he discovered who Haggard was and found out that New Life had publicly opposed same-sex marriage - a key issue in Colorado, with a pair of issues on Tuesday's ballot.

    Associated Press reporter Robert Weller in Denver contributed to this report.


    11/05/06 13:22 EST
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    Don't surprise this Reverand is a queer. I was watching him tell his side of the story and he seems very feminem. It bet the Reverand got down on his knees more then once with American Gigolo, and it wasn't to pray...

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    The bloke is a homosexual and he is as good as nailed.

    The cover of the Lord is no longer valid.


    "Some have learnt many Tricks of sly Evasion, Instead of Truth they use Equivocation, And eke it out with mental Reservation, Which is to good Men an Abomination."

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    The Reverend is lying.... there's no way sex didn't occur if this man advertised himself as an escort....

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    Where are all of these perverts coming from?

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    Hope

    I suspect that that what the preacher is REALLY hoping for, is that none of the other guys he's had sex with come forward too. He's been gay all his life and hiding behind his wife and church. I genuinely doubt that there aren't more than a few skeletons about to come out of his closet. Yes, pun intended. I doubt as the article suggests that this is an opportunity for evangelicals to bridge a gap with gay activists. More likely it'll be used by the church further seperate those who have caused this good man such trouble. But he did this to himself, not because he's gay but because he didn't want to be. What has always amazed me, is how many gay guys are married whos wives have no flippin clue. Seriously, when I meet a couple at a party and come away from a two minute conversation knowing without a doubt the that husband's a poof I can't imagine how the mrs hasn't figgered it yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave View Post
    What has always amazed me, is how many gay guys are married whos wives have no flippin clue. Seriously, when I meet a couple at a party and come away from a two minute conversation knowing without a doubt the that husband's a poof I can't imagine how the mrs hasn't figgered it yet.

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    That's because women are in denial. The last thing a women wants to find out is that she married a queer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Semper Fi View Post
    That's because women are in denial. The last thing a women wants to find out is that she married a queer.
    How humiliating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julie View Post
    How humiliating.
    Yep!

    I know a girl who had a daughter with her first love, and after a year he comes out of the closet...totally devasted her.

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    Here we have closet queers.

    Though some have come out in the open.

    And even though we have legal provisions that forbid 'unnatural sex including consentual homosexual aactivities', the govt turns the Nelson's eye.


    "Some have learnt many Tricks of sly Evasion, Instead of Truth they use Equivocation, And eke it out with mental Reservation, Which is to good Men an Abomination."

    I don't have to attend every argument I'm invited to.

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