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Reply With QuoteI've got absolutely no problem with this. It's completely their right to do it, and I don't have to pay for it. Makes me happy. Heck, maybe it'll work.
Minutemen installing Ariz. border fence
AP - 2 hours, 2 minutes ago
PALOMINAS, Ariz. - Scores of volunteers gathered at a remote ranch Saturday to help a civilian border-patrol group start building a short security fence in hopes of reducing illegal immigration from Mexico. The Minuteman Civil Defense Corps plans to install a combination of barbed wire, razor wire, and in some spots, steel rail barriers along the 10-mile stretch of private land in southeastern Arizona.
Armed minuteman patrols border.
They hope it prompts the federal government to do the same along the entire Arizona border.
President Bush has pledged to deploy as many as 6,000 National Guard troops to strengthen enforcement at the border. The guardsmen would fill in on some behind-the-lines Border Patrol jobs while that agency's force is expanded.
But the Minutemen have said it's not enough. The group's founder, Chris Simcox, said they want a secure fence and they're starting at the site where his first patrols began in November 2002.
Rancher Jack Ladd and his son, John, were hopeful the effort would limit the illegal immigrants and drug runners who have cut the small fence along the property or just driven over it to cross into the U.S.
"We've been fighting this thing for 10 years with the fence, and nobody will do anything," Jack Ladd said.
Most of the day was dedicated to speeches from politicians and Minutemen leaders and celebrating large donations the Minutemen group has been receiving.
Minuteman spokeswoman Connie Hair said it would take up to three weeks to build the estimated $100,000 fence. So far, the group has raised $380,000 for more border fences, she said.
Timothy Schwartz of Glendale, Ariz., who was among at least 200 volunteers gathered, said he wants to see a fence along the border from California to Texas.
"We're not going to stop," Schwartz said. "We're going to stay here with a group and keep building."
Quetzal Doty of Sun Lakes, Ariz., a retired U.S. diplomatic consular officer, brought his wife, Sandy, to the event.
He said he's convinced the Minutemen and most Americans aren't anti-immigrant.
"They're just anti-illegal," said Doty. "The Minutemen walk the extra mile to avoid being anti-immigrant and that's what we like about the organization and what got us interested."
Last edited by Bill; 28 May 06, at 19:43.
I've got absolutely no problem with this. It's completely their right to do it, and I don't have to pay for it. Makes me happy. Heck, maybe it'll work.
I enjoy being wrong too much to change my mind.
Those donations for the fence should be tax deductable. It is really cool to see our citizens going the extra mile to do their civic duty of protecting our great nation.
Good job guys!
No man is free until all men are free - John Hossack
I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq-John Kerry
even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry
He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry
Excellent.
-dale
Thank god for the MMP. Newsmax is saying that the # of illegals crossing has gone up due to all the talk about amnesty.
God bless those true patriots!!
I'm DEEPLY troubled by this terribly racist act. These people are obvoiusly rasists and...BANG...THUD.
Sorry about that, folks. Never leave a liberal alone in the same room with your computer.
Pardon me whilst I dig ANOTHER hole in the back yard...
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I see you're working on your post count.
I enjoy being wrong too much to change my mind.
I love how the Mexican government turns our call for an orderly immigration into a racist act. That's like Adolf Hitler calling our POW camp in Arizona an "attrocity."
I have no problem with Mexican immigrants, or any immigrants. We are a nation of immigrants. We just don't like people to stroll across the border like it isn't even there.
Is that a fence? My three year old nephew could go over that one.
There's more to it than what you see in the pic. That's just the first part of the fence project.
Yeah, the MMP is installing a 2 layer security fence on 6 properties of Arizona ranchers .... its a start and im thinking I might go down there this summer for a week or so to check it out.Originally Posted by M21Sniper
Oh good! I was wondering!
Whats that first thingy for then? To stop the Mexican dwarfs association? Might not even do that.
Walls don't exactly have a good history stopping people. Maginot Line stopped Messrs Guderians and the rest for all of 10 minutes. The great wall turned out to be just a waste of bricks, mostly.
So if you want to stop them, keep a proper border patrol, you know armed men who mean business (even start a rumour about a mine field
Berlin Wall
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_...scape_attempts
And the vast majority of those were in the first two years.During the Wall's existence there were around 5,000 successful escapes (a form of illegal emigration) into West Berlin
"Any relations in a social order will endure if there is infused into them some of that spirit of human sympathy, which qualifies life for immortality." ~ George William Russell
Myth. The Maginot Line was quite effective, if incomplete. Otherwise the Germans wouldn't have gone around it.
-dale
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