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    Quote Originally Posted by astralis
    so, you really need to extend the generalization.

    not just coastal americans, then; 59,028,109 americans were liberal socialist commie hippies. oh god, let's not even talk about "slick willy", he managed to turn 47 million americans into commies while only 39 million americans TRULY loved their country and voted for dole.
    Slick Willy wasn't a pinko commie nor was he a socialist. His wife is though. He could be considered somewhat a hippie and sometimes a socialist. That's why he didn't get as many popular votes as Kerry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnut
    Ah, but how soon we'd forget that the senator who led his party filibuster the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was Albert Gore of Tennessee.
    Not at all, you may forget that the South until fairly recently was heavily Democratic. My point has to do with how we define liberal and conservative, not so much about the two political parities.

    In essence, I think I would be safe in saying that most participants to this forum would consider themselves conservative on domestic issues, yet would prefer if Islamist societies were more liberal and free thinking when dealing with the west and our values.

    My point is that I think most of us are predisposed to being conservative as it pertains to maintaining the status quo within our own culture.

    However, we prefer others to adopt a more liberal view when it come to making changes within their own society, especially if those changes are more in line with our own values.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tim52
    Not at all, you may forget that the South until fairly recently was heavily Democratic. My point has to do with how we define liberal and conservative, not so much about the two political parities.
    South voted exclusively Democratic from the end of the Civil war until 1964 because they lost the war to the Republicans. The Civil War didn't end in 1865. It ended in 1968 when Nixon carried the south.

    Quote Originally Posted by tim52
    My point is that I think most of us are predisposed to being conservative as it pertains to maintaining the status quo within our own culture.

    However, we prefer others to adopt a more liberal view when it come to making changes within their own society, especially if those changes are more in line with our own values.
    Not necessarily. We really didn't care one way or the other how the muslims treated their own people in their own country. We had a problem when they want to push their way of life onto us. Don't believe me? Look at Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by astralis
    right...so people whom vote democrat are automatically "liberal socialist commie hippies" straight out of hollywood and berkeley.
    If you read back, he said "not all".
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    even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry
    He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry

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    Quote Originally Posted by astralis
    right...so people whom vote democrat are automatically "liberal socialist commie hippies" straight out of hollywood and berkeley.
    Thank god no.

    Unfortunately, a lot of DEMZ are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wooglin
    I think there's a lot of people who voted against Bush rather than for Kerry.
    Well then aint they just a bunch of effing morons.

    Anyone knows that an intelligent man is far more dangerous than an idiot, and Kerry was both intelligent and a PINKO COMMIE SCUMBAG.

    Voting AGAINST Bush by voting FOR kerry is about as smart as getting rid of the squirrels in your attic with gasoline and matches....

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    Sniper, what are you trying to say? Please stop beating around the bushes and tell us how you really feel.

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    One word to describe all sorts liberals / socialist / commie / hippie / apologists / feminists / relativists... Hypocrite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tim52
    In essence, I think I would be safe in saying that most participants to this forum would consider themselves conservative on domestic issues, yet would prefer if Islamist societies were more liberal and free thinking when dealing with the west and our values.

    My point is that I think most of us are predisposed to being conservative as it pertains to maintaining the status quo within our own culture.

    However, we prefer others to adopt a more liberal view when it come to making changes within their own society, especially if those changes are more in line with our own values.
    Pretty much what's happening right now between Islam and the West. Hmmm, thanks Tim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnut
    Sniper, what are you trying to say? Please stop beating around the bushes and tell us how you really feel.
    I don't think you want to take him there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnut
    Sniper, what are you trying to say? Please stop beating around the bushes and tell us how you really feel.
    I appologize for the general ambiguity of my posts.

    I shall endeavour to be more clear in the future.

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