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Originally Posted by platinum786
could you say that bit again, coz either you don't get me.....or i defintely don't get you!!
So are you trying to say that you want to confront China?
My point was that there are two views on this foru both at 'extreme' ends of a spectrum.
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I'm actually part of a 3rd group who wants to paint a realistic picture. Blue Group is actually the term referred to within PLA watcher circles to the anti-China clique in Washington who wants to replace the USSR menace with the China menance. We, the 3rd group, clash as much with them as we do the red group.
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Originally Posted by platinum786
The Jf-17 and J-10 are defintely coming into service.....in 5 years time, i'd expect around 200 of each...maybe less of the J-10....but still they will be in there. Also do you really think China can afford to wait that long? I mean they don't even have a Raptor competitor on paper yet do they?
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They do on paper. The XJ12.
The PLAAF does have a plane to which everyone within the PLAAF agrees upon, the SU-27/30 and they want to flush out their numbers with those. The J10 and JF-17/FC-1, however, is not measuring up to those standards but the political pressures would be impossible to resist. However, the debate is just how many planes. I doubt you will see many JF-17s/FC-1s, maybe a token regiment or two. The PLAAF really hates this bird.
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Originally Posted by platinum786
Say Taiwan was to declare independence, if China waited i don't think they would really take it back do you?
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That really depends on the circumstances. The PLA is a political force as well as a military one. Even if they manage to push back the date would be a victory for them.
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By that do you mean that they have some sort of officer hierarchy, like in the british army of the past (don't know wether it's true today), so that only certain people can be officers? I mean i didn't get that bit, someof us are only 20, and ahven't been in the army for 20 years....
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Gee, great of way of saying that I was in the army when the dinosaurs roam the earth.
Like any army, you need people to do the jobs, and most of it is mundane - signing paycheques, filling out schedule requests at the range, personelle reviews, receiving and issueing standing orders, including uniform of the day, etc. The people who do these jobs in the PLA are officers - Lieutenants, Captains, Majors, Colonels, and Generals. The people who excel at their jobs get posted in one of the show case units, ie the 38th and 39th Group Armies which means that the unit in which these guys were serving lost a good guy.
There is an attempt by the PLA to develop a system in place in which the Sergeants would doing these mundane work and a promotional system which will see these Sgts stay within that unit for their entire career and thus, the unit does not need to lose a good guy when he gets transferred.
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Originally Posted by platinum786
Is this about the SAM network or the navy? If it is the sam network i've got to disagree they've brought teh best the bear has and thier own sh1t.
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They have an extremely good point-defence ground based AD net but that's not saying alot since no ground based AD net has stopped a strike package on its own.
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Originally Posted by platinum786
If it's about the navy....on an individual ship Vs ship level, do you think thier new big ships, cannot take on USN ones? If so, why?
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Alot of it is training. The PLAN only did one around the world tour in the past decade. We do it as a matter of deployment.
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Originally Posted by platinum786
yeah but how would the chinese react to that?
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They want to avoid it. The Chinese ain't stupid. They know they can't take on the USN in a heads on fight no matter how much the chest beaters want to scream. However, that does not mean that they're not willing to fight the USN. But their OPOBJs are much more realistic. They are not going to sink a CVBG. They might try and they might even succeed in sinking the carrier (which does not negate the rest of the battle group) but the point is to delay the CVBG from launching air strikes that would sink the invasion force until that invasion force decided the ground battle in TW.
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Originally Posted by platinum786
are you resorting to name calling?
Coz if you are......i'm still young, my brain cells have not been killed by beer and hearing orders.....ur in trouble. 
Now seriously speaking.....i don't get what ur saying, a calfirication would be great.  |
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