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Dima · 04-21-2005, 22:30 PM

that's their entire defense budget

"That even a T-80 can beat? Perhaps if the M-1A1 is caught from behind at close range, but other than that... The T-80 is a tank with a lot of flaws, and in a 1 on 1 match with an original M-1 it would die in all but the most extreme circumstances."

can an Abrams fire while moving at full speed, no, but a T-80 can, also, it depends which version of the T-80 you're referring to, the T-80 itself wasn't that impressive, only a 1,000 hp gas-turbine engine, the T-80U was amazing, and the T-80UM1 is an awesome tank, the UM alone is great as well

"What a load of crap. Canada has a 58,000 man professional force. Do the math!"

duhh, that's why we rely on America to protect us, and Canada is not known for having an army, it's a very small issue, i wish we'd spend more money on the military, you heard they agreed to spend $5.6 billion over the next 10? years on military

also, Canada does not face any immediate serious threat, as the only nation that they touch with is their closest ally, America, while Russia has to be afraid of the Muslim insurgencies, NATO expansion, China etc.

"Russia has a police issue, not a military one."

that's not really true, Russian police are doing an amazing job lately in capturing rebels in Chechnya, i think since the beginning of the year, something like 105 rebels captured, that's more than one a day, and the Russians ahve only lost 35 soldiers so far, leading to a total of only 140 losses by the end of the year, compare with 1,100 in Iraq over 2 years(in Chechnya, would amoutn to only 280 losses in 2 years)

are you kidding, 380,000 man force to stare down Muslim rebels that could number possibly 1,000,000 people easily or more(because if support from Iran etc.) plus the 5 million large army of China, the nuclear threat from North Korea etc. a lot more threats

the Russian military does very little in Chechnya recently, after the death of Aslan Maskhadov, now, it's personal secuiryt teams, such as Regional police anf the FSB, especially the FSB

Vietnam, that was nominal, Korea, kind of long ago, but that was a good fight, remmber watching it on History channel, the Northerners were whooping the Southerners, and somethnig happened, and they were pushed back

but i looked on map, and they had so little territory left

Desert Storm, no, they weren't properly trained and the equipment was not prperly maintained

04-21-2005, 22:30 PM	#64 (permalink)
Dima Contributor Join Date: 01-27-05 Posts: 434	that's their entire defense budget "That even a T-80 can beat? Perhaps if the M-1A1 is caught from behind at close range, but other than that... The T-80 is a tank with a lot of flaws, and in a 1 on 1 match with an original M-1 it would die in all but the most extreme circumstances." can an Abrams fire while moving at full speed, no, but a T-80 can, also, it depends which version of the T-80 you're referring to, the T-80 itself wasn't that impressive, only a 1,000 hp gas-turbine engine, the T-80U was amazing, and the T-80UM1 is an awesome tank, the UM alone is great as well "What a load of crap. Canada has a 58,000 man professional force. Do the math!" duhh, that's why we rely on America to protect us, and Canada is not known for having an army, it's a very small issue, i wish we'd spend more money on the military, you heard they agreed to spend $5.6 billion over the next 10? years on military also, Canada does not face any immediate serious threat, as the only nation that they touch with is their closest ally, America, while Russia has to be afraid of the Muslim insurgencies, NATO expansion, China etc. "Russia has a police issue, not a military one." that's not really true, Russian police are doing an amazing job lately in capturing rebels in Chechnya, i think since the beginning of the year, something like 105 rebels captured, that's more than one a day, and the Russians ahve only lost 35 soldiers so far, leading to a total of only 140 losses by the end of the year, compare with 1,100 in Iraq over 2 years(in Chechnya, would amoutn to only 280 losses in 2 years) are you kidding, 380,000 man force to stare down Muslim rebels that could number possibly 1,000,000 people easily or more(because if support from Iran etc.) plus the 5 million large army of China, the nuclear threat from North Korea etc. a lot more threats the Russian military does very little in Chechnya recently, after the death of Aslan Maskhadov, now, it's personal secuiryt teams, such as Regional police anf the FSB, especially the FSB Vietnam, that was nominal, Korea, kind of long ago, but that was a good fight, remmber watching it on History channel, the Northerners were whooping the Southerners, and somethnig happened, and they were pushed back but i looked on map, and they had so little territory left Desert Storm, no, they weren't properly trained and the equipment was not prperly maintained __________________ for MOTHER MOLDOVA