"lol thanks, but I have only slightly more than a feeling to counter your feeling. Hamas has stated that they will accept a 2 state solution as a spring board for launching a new intifadah into Israel. Arafat has said much the same thing. Abbas is not Arafat, and Hamas could somehow end up getting incorporated into the PA. Until that happens though I think its a reasonable fear, although not a guarenteed thing."
Well every player in this drama has more or less accepted that Israelis have a right to breathe air in the middle east, the drama is over the location of the air
. But first off I do think it would be a hard sell once a viable Palestinian state is made to get people to ruin things by attacking Israel and risking a lot. That is a good sound bite nowadays for the base to push them back into the sea and such. And using Palestine as a springboard would not be looking at history very well if they tried it (the history of raid and retalion by both sides over there). That was what my feeling was based off of, speculation and guessing.
"I was unaware of this. How did they settle it/what was the outcome?"
Syria needed to divert sopme water for local use. Israel and Syria shoot it out to about a draw then sit down and agree over the water use. Really some tanks shot at each other (in one fight Centurions actually came off bad with dug in Panzer IVs), there were artillery duels, cross border raids by elite units on both sides, planes dropped bombs on each others ground and a couple got shot down.
In other word nothing out of the ordinary....
"They were never a very large number, and I don't mean to be cavilier about people losing their homes, but its over and done with. If every injustice is to be undone a million more would be created."
Israel and Syria were working out a deal to return most of the Golan back to Syria with Assad Sr. before he died. After he died Israel broke down the talks with his son. So really it can't be that important to them when you think about it.
"The Syrian army perhaps, but Syria might decide at some point to authorize Hezbollah to use the Syrian border."
Syria didn't even allow PLO raiders to stage out of Syria back when it was fashionable in the 1970s. They had them go out of Lebanon and not use Syrian ground. After they get back the Golan more or less that ends their need for Hezbollah. Makes one wonder what would happen. Hezbollah is a huge part of Lebanon speaking in a way for the Shiite majority.
Off topic when Israel went into Lebanon in 1982 they not onyl went in basically on a trick from Iraq (to get them to fight Syria) but they went in on an outdated report (really outdated) which showed a Christian majority, when they got deep into the war it was figured out there was a Shiite majority and putting in a Christian government would not work. Of course the Christian frontrunner had also lied about the majority (Lebanon never re did its census for like 50 years before hand or something crazy like that) . Read that recently in the book "Israel's Lebanon War" which was written by 2 Israelis back in 1985, good read and rather unbiased (though it hits Sharon hard).
"lol moving the border would just mean that those troops, tanks, and artillery stare at eachother from different places. But seriously in purely dollar and sense terms, no it would not be benificial for Israel to leave. The Golan Heights is where almost all of Israel's vineyards are as well as lot of other agricultural produce. Lots of Kibbutzim there lol. I'm not saying that that is reason enough not to negotiate over the Golan, I'm just responding to that specific point."
They were more then willing to give up most of it back in the 1990s. And end that problem and the need to keep units ready to fight at a moments notice drops. It is like once Jordan became friendly Haruv got disbanned and Egoz came close to being disbanned after the 2000 Lebanon pullout.
"Hahah I guess it would be a boring forum if people tried to keep the peace by agreeing with eachother."
Well at least I do a better job being the odd man out then the last one (Lull)
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"Let'em make peace, or let'em make war. All we are doing right now is perpetuating the problem, and making new ones for ourselves in the process."
Isn't that funny that we are arming both sides to keep the peace.....
