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Old 01-02-2005, 19:17 PM   #12 (permalink)
Praxus
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Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers
Not a valid arguement. When the two finally met, Hannibal's army was already decimated beyond repair by desertion and casualties and mercenaries just seeing the pay ain't good enough.
I know, and it wasn't an argument, it was a joke (because I realized I should have put Hannibal).

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Hannibal was a manouver general without peer in his time. Crossing the Alps was a mark of strategic brilliance. He just could not sustain his losses and could not convince the rest of Italy to abandon Rome.
Scipio Africanus had a series of three major victories. He first captured New Carthage, then he fired the enemy camps, and then outnumbered he defeated the Carthiginians (including Hannibal and his brother Hasdrubal) at the Battle of Zama while sustaining few casulties. Although Hannibal was rather screwed over by the low moral of his forces after the burning of his camp.

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Still missing alot of names. I would put Pausinias instead of Leonidas. The Spartan King who finally killed the Persian Army Leonidas could not stop at Platea.
Leonidas died at Thermopylae with the 300 Knights, but good point.

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Now it is sensical. What the Art of War actually is is a Field Manual, akin to an ancient version of FM 3.0. I really recommend you read FM 3.0 and you would see just how advance the Art of War was for its time.

Until you learn, you really don't know what is sensical or not. The Great Pharoh Ramses walked into a trap with the Hitties when he believed two Hittie spies who told him that the Hittie Army was so in awe of him that they abandonned the field. Ramses, believing the spies and without checking their stories out, walked straight into a Hittie host.
All I'm saying is that he may have been a Great strategist but it seems to me that most (not all) of what he has said has been figured out elsewhere, as well. It just wasn't unified, and for that Sun Tzu deserves ample credit.
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