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Old 05-10-2008, 01:48 AM   #3 (permalink)
Helium
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Here are a few facts: Over 95 percent of the greenhouse effect is the result of water vapor in Earth's atmosphere. Without the greenhouse effect, Earth's average temperature would be zero degrees Fahrenheit. Most climate change is a result of the orbital eccentricities of Earth and variations in the sun's output. On top of that, natural wetlands produce more greenhouse gas contributions annually than all human sources combined.
This is an article from an economist lol, please and nowhere does it mention that carbon has an insignificant effect on the atmosphere. You have used this article to try and make an argument that water vapour is a more serious green house gas than carbon, thus in doing so trying to make a point that carbon is "ïnsignificant" because its introduction into the atmosphere is far less than water vapour.

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Over 95 percent of the greenhouse effect is the result of water vapor in Earth's atmosphere.
Are you f****** serious, this is a statement by an economist and he does not provide any source for this...."fact". This is a perfect example of utilizing statistics to fit your own argument, he does not state whether 95% of human introduced water vapour/anthropogenic or if this is the natural green house effect. I assume he is talking about the natural effect judging by that percentage, which is therefore irrelevant because human induced global warming is the alteration of the chemical composition of the atm...ere through introduction of more or less of green house gases.

If he means that the organic water vapour, then I agree that this can be true (95% I think not but I would believe a figure over 50%) but it is irrelevent because we know that the naturally occuring green house gases are what has created the oxic and temperate climate necessary for life so the effect of this non-human introduced vapour is essential for maintaining the current natural climate.

Heres good ol' Wallys credentials

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Walter E. Williams
Born in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Dr. Walter E. Williams holds a B.A. in economics from California State University, Los Angeles, and M.A. and Ph.D. degrees in economics from UCLA. He also holds a Doctor of Humane Letters from Virginia Union University and Grove City College, Doctor of Laws from Washington and Jefferson College and Doctor Honoris Causa en Ciencias Sociales from Universidad Francisco Marroquin, in Guatemala, where he is also Professor Honorario.

Dr. Williams has served on the faculty of George Mason University in Fairfax, Virginia, as John M. Olin Distinguished Professor of Economics, since 1980; from 1995 to 2001, he served as department chairman. He has also served on the faculties of Los Angeles City College, California State University Los Angeles, and Temple University in Philadelphia, and Grove City College, Grove City, Pa.
Not really qualified to be used to support that carbon is insignificant as a gree house gas, especially when he doesn't even mention carbon.

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On top of that, natural wetlands produce more greenhouse gas contributions annually than all human sources combined.
Again irrelevant, the green house gases emitted by wetlands are what maintains the natural levels of chemical composition of the atm...ere to create the required oxic and temperature conditions necessary for life. Again what matter is what chemicals/molecules r added/introduced unnaturally by humans that alter the chemical composition thus the oxic and temperature of at...ere.

You have yet to provide evidence that CO2 emissions and its effects are irrelevant.
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