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Originally Posted by dalem
I've never understood this one. Why should I keep an open mind on something I've gathered sufficient facts on?
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Why? Because facts may arise or old ones turn out false.
You don't have ALL the facts; you have media reports, selected snippets of sermons, pundit opinions, and so on.
That's enough to form an opinion, which you have. But if new facts come along or old ones turn out to be wrong, what will you say?
Don't bother me with the facts; I have my mind made up?
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I think the Obamas do NOT love their country as it is, and I think they are NOT patriotic.
So what?
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Interesting qualifier you put after "country": "as it is". Interesting because no one who is politically involved in elective politics from office seekers to voters loves their country AS IT IS. Just so you don't misunderstand me, I am talking about "country" not as landscape, but as government, social structure, and all that. If we loved it AS IT IS we wouldn't be trying to change it. It follows then that a patriot, who is defined in part by love of country, would never permit change because he loves it AS IT IS. If this is true, then office seekers and voters are not patriots. But the truth is we love what our country stands for: its values, its freedoms, its culture, its accomplishments, and
its ability to adapt to new challenges.
You're wrong about Obama.