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Old 05-06-2008, 16:31 PM   #56 (permalink)
dalem
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I agree. But we're getting too far away from the point. She never said she didn't love her country, or wasn't proud of its achievements. She said she felt pride in her country for the first time in her adult life upon seeing the diverse support her hurband, a black man, was getting.
Right. She said the first time she felt "really proud" of her country was not until her husband got close to the Presidency. So nothing else her country ever did or was doing had ever made her feel really proud.

Nothing.

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As for my delving into what that means, it is for me a matter of trying to understand what made her say that and why she had no feeling of pride before. If the end result is that there is something sinister in that, so be it, but so far I don't see it. My opposition to her husband has to do with his politics, not her lack of discretion.
Sinister? I doubt it. Self-involved, incredibly tunnel-visioned, and wildly insufficient? Yes.

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I am sorry, Dale, but I am not buying into your interpretation of what I said. My meaning was clear. A class of people was being oppressed in this country all the while those great achievements were unfolding. I am inclined to forgive them for not always feeling the degree of pride you demand of them. What we want is to see that change. Now that America has rejected racial discrimination, and what remaining pockets of it are dwindling, I am glad to see pride coming to that class. I agree, it was impolitic for Obama's wife to say what she said, but an unbiased person could also interpret her words as a good sign--a message to other blacks that the time has come to act and feel like full Americans.
...now that a black man is in serious contention for the highest office in the land.

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That's my opinion. End of story. Vote McCain.


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