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Old 05-06-2008, 14:19 PM   #54 (permalink)
JAD_333
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Originally Posted by dalem View Post
Patriotism is love for one's country.
I agree. But we're getting too far away from the point. She never said she didn't love her country, or wasn't proud of its achievements. She said she felt pride in her country for the first time in her adult life upon seeing the diverse support her hurband, a black man, was getting.

As for my delving into what that means, it is for me a matter of trying to understand what made her say that and why she had no feeling of pride before. If the end result is that there is something sinister in that, so be it, but so far I don't see it. My opposition to her husband has to do with his politics, not her lack of discretion.

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So lingering tensions are sufficient to outweigh the freeing of hundreds of millions from tyranny, walking on the moon, curing of many diseases, and the other good stuff we did or had a heavy hand in?
I am sorry, Dale, but I am not buying into your interpretation of what I said. My meaning was clear. A class of people was being oppressed in this country all the while those great achievements were unfolding. I am inclined to forgive them for not always feeling the degree of pride you demand of them. What we want is to see that change. Now that America has rejected racial discrimination, and what remaining pockets of it are dwindling, I am glad to see pride coming to that class. I agree, it was impolitic for Obama's wife to say what she said, but an unbiased person could also interpret her words as a good sign--a message to other blacks that the time has come to act and feel like full Americans.

That's my opinion. End of story. Vote McCain.
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