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Originally Posted by astralis
gunnut,
i don't doubt that, but the question remains if that is a valid thought.
heck, even pledging allegiance to the flag is also a relatively new thing too  does that mean lincoln and TR were unpatriotic? 
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If these practices were around back then, do you think they would refuse to participate?
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Originally Posted by astralis
wearing the flag lapel, or holding the hand over the heart- these are "low-meaning" indicators of patriotism. it doesn't mean very much if you do it (nixon did it, and he made a mockery of the office of the president and the US, as an instance). yet NOT doing such a thing, it raises questions. sort of irrational.
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Right. It's just a minor gesture. Not a very big deal. So why refuse?
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Originally Posted by astralis
there's actually another lesser known instance of this. the phrase "god bless america" to end a speech. bush and clinton and reagan used this phrase quite often- but guess whom started this trend?
...nixon.
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I don't know much about Nixon. I heard he didn't know about Watergate. It was his underlings who were responsible. He took the blame for them.