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Johnny W · 05-02-2008, 16:17 PM

[quote=fitz;467236]But how does an Iowa even find a target 1,500nm away? You claim she has a radar capable of detecting surface ship targets up to 2,000 miles away! This seems a bit odd. Her biggest, most powerful, longest-ranged radar is SPS-49(V)1, a low-frequency long-range air-search set generally credited with an effective range of around 400km against a bomber. According to you however, this is not the radar in question.

So what other radar systems do we see on the Iowa's.

Looking at the photo in front of me I see SPS-67(V)1, basically the old SPS-10 surface-search/navigation/snorkel detection radar with new solid-state below-decks equipment. Unless you want to convince me a Knox class frigate can pick out surface ships an ocean away with this puppy I think we can move on.

SPQ-9 is a short-range, precision, TWS gunfire control radar. Really a non-starter for those kinds of ranges.

The ships navigation radar is certainly not a candidate, neither are the various gunfire control radars.

So what is this uber-secret magical miracle radar that makes SPY-1 look like a hot steaming pile of puke, and more importantly, where is it?

I know, it must be invisible. The first stealth radar. That is the only possible explanation.

Since you refuse to name this amazing technical device, either because you think your being cute with some special secret knowledge (like Mormon underwear) and it is not mentioned in any of the technical journals or the usual sources, we shall have to give this puppy a name.

I christen thee the Unicorn because this radar, like the mythical creature from which it gets its name, is about as real.
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Hello, I am new on the boards here, but I did want to make a comment. And sorry for bumping an older thread.

I served on the Iowa from 1986-1990. Radar wasn't really an option for providing targeting data for Tomahawk antiship missiles. By the time a ship got close enough to be picked up by surface search radars, it was already in range for Harpoons, and they were a far better option for attacking surface targets that close. Initial targeting information for the longer range Tomahawks was provided by satellite, or by accompanying aircraft/surface ships/submarines, or in some cases by the Unamanned aerial vehicles which the Iowa carried. I imagine the same would be true for the Kirov's.

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Johnny W Patron Join Date: 04-30-08 Location: North Carolina Posts: 159 Country:	[quote=fitz;467236]But how does an Iowa even find a target 1,500nm away? You claim she has a radar capable of detecting surface ship targets up to 2,000 miles away! This seems a bit odd. Her biggest, most powerful, longest-ranged radar is SPS-49(V)1, a low-frequency long-range air-search set generally credited with an effective range of around 400km against a bomber. According to you however, this is not the radar in question. So what other radar systems do we see on the Iowa's. Looking at the photo in front of me I see SPS-67(V)1, basically the old SPS-10 surface-search/navigation/snorkel detection radar with new solid-state below-decks equipment. Unless you want to convince me a Knox class frigate can pick out surface ships an ocean away with this puppy I think we can move on. SPQ-9 is a short-range, precision, TWS gunfire control radar. Really a non-starter for those kinds of ranges. The ships navigation radar is certainly not a candidate, neither are the various gunfire control radars. So what is this uber-secret magical miracle radar that makes SPY-1 look like a hot steaming pile of puke, and more importantly, where is it? I know, it must be invisible. The first stealth radar. That is the only possible explanation. Since you refuse to name this amazing technical device, either because you think your being cute with some special secret knowledge (like Mormon underwear) and it is not mentioned in any of the technical journals or the usual sources, we shall have to give this puppy a name. I christen thee the Unicorn because this radar, like the mythical creature from which it gets its name, is about as real. [quote] Hello, I am new on the boards here, but I did want to make a comment. And sorry for bumping an older thread. I served on the Iowa from 1986-1990. Radar wasn't really an option for providing targeting data for Tomahawk antiship missiles. By the time a ship got close enough to be picked up by surface search radars, it was already in range for Harpoons, and they were a far better option for attacking surface targets that close. Initial targeting information for the longer range Tomahawks was provided by satellite, or by accompanying aircraft/surface ships/submarines, or in some cases by the Unamanned aerial vehicles which the Iowa carried. I imagine the same would be true for the Kirov's.