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Old 05-01-2008, 13:25 PM   #75 (permalink)
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That's weather and the BBC is not a govt or a peer reviewed publication
No, it's the BBC, a secondary source, using a primary source, the World Meterological Organization.

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That quote is from your source.
Again from your source.
Basically saying this is an argument agaisnt Global warming is like saying a few cold winters is an ice age.
When I use sources, I provide links so that someone can read through it all. The quotes predicting future rising temperatures don't impress me - my question is what did the models predict, and if their predictions are wrong, then why should we put any faith into the model?

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Image:Instrumental Temperature Record.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I believe this is the answer to your question. It has a number of peaks and troughs but a clear trend
A clear trend over the past 5 years of no rise in temperature, although it will take 5 more years to see that moving 5 year average.

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thats a scary one huh?
So we're less than one degree warmer compared to an unspecified mean time period? That's not scary to me.

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This is a topic I would gladly argue all day long. it's like being armed with a bazooka in a knife fight
Until that knife fighter sneaks up from behind

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I dont see here it's been real 'cold' lately and neither does our conservative govt.
The US recorded the 63rd warmest March on record. Not too hot here in the US. However, the point you're probably trying to make is about the world average temperature in March, which was the 2nd warmest in the 129 years of collecting data. One month does not a year make, so I'll until next January to see what happens this year.

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....El Nina is winding down

Are you really saying we are not experiencing global warming Shek or are you just saying you can make a counter argument? Leaving cause out of the picture
Over what time period? My original piece looked at the past decade, but over a longer time period, sure we're seeing warming. However, if models can't predict accurately, then that means we don't have the science to capture the causal mechanisms, which means that we can't develop solutions to weigh on a cost-benefit analysis to enact policies.
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