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Old 04-30-2008, 01:08 AM   #89 (permalink)
Gun Grape
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Originally Posted by maximusslade
I read a bit of Navy and other military history. Never did I read anything about Marines griping about how "inaccurate" the guns on the WW I vingage BB's were, let alone the Iowas. But I'm certain someone can find something.
Yes we can. Go to the official Marine Corps history of the island hopping campaigns in the Pacific in WW2.. They are broke down by campaign. Can also read the official Army and Navy history’s and the pertinent fire support sections on the ETO You can also look at the NGF effectiveness reports conducted concerning fire support during the Korean war and the CinCPacFlt surface fire study in1969 (?)(Year from memory may have been 68)

It helps if you read official documents vice Clancy and Time life books.

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Originally Posted by maximusslade
A theory I might project, maybe, just maybe, sailors brought up in the age of missles and rockets don't know squat about naval gunnery as opposed to those old salts that earned their shell backs or did their midshipman cruises on those old teak decks of those divinely mightily armed and armored ships. Just an idea..
Are you speaking about the sailors that crewed the guns in the 80s?

Or are you inferring that posters on this thread have not ever seen naval gunfire, specifically 16in naval gunfire, so any deficiencies they perceive is due to lack of “real” knowledge and personal experience? Just asking


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Originally Posted by maximusslade
. Wait a second. Don't they fire 120MM sabot tank rounds over Marine's heads??? What the heck are those tankers thinking?!?!?
Have you ever seen this? If so when? Or is this just a smart remark to show your ignorance.

No they don’t fire Sabot rounds over the heads of Marines. I would even like for you to show me pictures of Bradleys firing Sabot rounds over the heads of friendly troops.

Do you know what a surface danger zone is? The M1 has a SDZ that goes out in a 90 deg angle from the tube out 200 meters. At that time it is 400 meters in width and continues for 1000 meters in length. Friendly troops cannot be in that area when the weapon is fired. Except in a combat emergency. Notice I didn’t say combat but a combat emergency.

The sabot rounds from the brads 25mm AP round poise a problem due to the discarded sabot that falls to the ground shortly after leaving the muzzle. The danger area extends out 400 meters along the gun-target line and along an arc of 10 degrees from the muzzle out to 400 meters on either side of the gun-target line. Infantry soldiers in this area require overhead cover and protection (a berm or tree) from the rear.

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