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Originally Posted by maximusslade
Grape, you, despite everything that has been said about the ship, are the only one who is causing my head to ache.
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I have that effect on some people.
But I also have about 21yrs of fire support experience and think its funny when someone with no experience, or idea of how things are done, try to tell us what WE need.
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Unless my history is off, I dont know of anyone trying to stop us at the beach. Again, unless my history was wrong, our last large scale amphibious assault was Korea?
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And yet you are wanting a ship to pound the beaches with ord. Now name the last time that a Battleships big guns were used in an amphibous assault. Heres a hint, you need to go back before Korea. They used CVs, CAs and DDs for that war. Even though the Iowas were in service and in the theater at the time Hummm, seems like way back in the 50s we decided we didn't need or want that "Big Hammer"
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So yeah, you were 250-300 miles from the beach and you wanted naval gunfire support? The new rocket propelled 155mm round it supposed to have a range of what, 100 miles? Even with a fleet of Zumwalts you'd be tough out of luck, and yes that even goes for my crazy BB design. Personally, I feel the navy is trying to push gun technology too far. A gun barrel is made for shooting rounds, not rockets. If you want fire support 350 miles inland, bring your own damned artillery or build more AC-130s!
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But you asked how far away might we need NSFS. I just gave you a real world example.
You also understand that for certain missions bringing your own guns isn't an option.
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This thread is about filling a hole in the arsenal of the United States that not only should be filled but NEEDS to be filled in the future.
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So explain why you feel it is a hole and why you think it needs to be filled
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When you want to drive a nail, dont do anything fancy, just hit it with a damn hammer. I know there are times that call for scalpels rather than swords and I understand that, but in the middle of the cold blue ocean or on a beach filled with people who want you dead, bring on the hammer.
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But you don't use the biggest nail you can find nor the biggest hammer.
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If you want to respond and tell me that I am living in a pipe dream or that I am some ignorant dinosaur or are just a hater in general, I DO NOT want to hear from you, at the very least I will not respond.
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OK
But normally when you present an idea You back the need and your solution up with facts. Anything that cannot be justified in daylight usually isn't a good idea.