Originally Posted by UnderSpin

Ah, I see the issue here. You believe you have a dilemma. You don't think CCP is great, but you are afraid that if CCP goes away it will be chaotic and could be even worse, right?

I have a good news for you: your delemma does not exist. We are not talking about a revolution here. No one wants to overthrow CCP. That would be truely chaotic. We just want change, similar to changes you have seen in years, changes you have given credits to CCP. But the difference is that we want you to drive the changes, not CCP to change whenever and whatever they feel like. And you should take credits for the changes.

In practical terms, this means that censorship should be stopped, citizens should be able to freely discuss ideas, freely organize support for certain causes and press the government to do that. Elections can start from the local level, and gradually move up. That's how Taiwan gradually established its democracy. There was no bloodshed, no revolution, some confusion along the way, but just getting better. At some point in this process, parties will be organized and when a party wins more votes than CCP, CCP should just step down, or come back again if it can win enough votes next time. The most difficult thing is to prepare people to think independently so they are ready to be the master of their own country.

If you stay in fear, nothing will happen. You can't defend CCP and ask for change at the same time. Chinese need to learn to criticize CCP for specific issue and press for change. This is not beating up a party, or humiliating a leader (like in Tiananmen Square incident). CCP claims that they delivered lots of changes, and you want some changes, what's wrong there? There are lots of grievance protests nowadays in China anyway. Go one step further, press for system changes, not just for resolution of your grievance. I hope you get the idea. Does it make sense?