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Originally Posted by UnderSpin
Ah, I see the issue here. You believe you have a dilemma. You don't think CCP is great, but you are afraid that if CCP goes away it will be chaotic and could be even worse, right?
I have a good news for you: your delemma does not exist. We are not talking about a revolution here. No one wants to overthrow CCP. That would be truely chaotic. We just want change, similar to changes you have seen in years, changes you have given credits to CCP. But the difference is that we want you to drive the changes, not CCP to change whenever and whatever they feel like. And you should take credits for the changes.
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Then, we are talking about almost exactly the same thing here. The change was driven by the ordinary Chinese people including myself.
Why the media start open up more and more? Is CCP suddenly think that they should give us more freedom of speech? No, it is the pressure from the people to force them to make the change. Ordinary Chinese people deserve the credits.
We like the form of a CCP that can be forced to react to people's pressure. We don't want this kind of arrangement to disappear suddenly.
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In practical terms, this means that censorship should be stopped, citizens should be able to freely discuss ideas, freely organize support for certain causes and press the government to do that. Elections can start from the local level, and gradually move up. That's how Taiwan gradually established its democracy. There was no bloodshed, no revolution, some confusion along the way, but just getting better. At some point in this process, parties will be organized and when a party wins more votes than CCP, CCP should just step down, or come back again if it can win enough votes next time. The most difficult thing is to prepare people to think independently so they are ready to be the master of their own country.
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Agreed and so many Chinese people are pushing for it. But we don't want to push too far to get CCP lost power before other alternative emerges.
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If you stay in fear, nothing will happen. You can't defend CCP and ask for change at the same time. Chinese need to learn to criticize CCP for specific issue and press for change. This is not beating up a party, or humiliating a leader (like in Tiananmen Square incident). CCP claims that they delivered lots of changes, and you want some changes, what's wrong there? There are lots of grievance protests nowadays in China anyway. Go one step further, press for system changes, not just for resolution of your grievance. I hope you get the idea. Does it make sense?
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Fear is a health sense of measuring the risk. We can defend CCP to keep it stay on power while push it for change at the same time at least in the near future.
Agreed that "Chinese need to learn to criticize CCP for specific issue and press for change" and they are doing it now everyday in their ways.
If your "one step further" means "the system change", as a mainland Chinese, my judgement is that it is too early right now.