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Old 04-23-2008, 23:30 PM   #62 (permalink)
Zeng
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Originally Posted by Albany Rifles View Post
“White killed White to free Black” to gain labor for the industrial revolution.

I will agree with some of the whites had noble cause to free black. But the essential reason behind “Free Black” is for labors.


You have accused us Americans of not knowing the Chinese.

You sure as Hell don't know the Americans. And you also show you do not
undersand the motivation of soldiers at war.


The figure I listed was for all of the dead of the Civil War...those who fought for both sides. All of the Union did not die for abolition directly...most died for their mess mates. Some could have cared less about the slaves...some in fact rebelled against it. In fact, here are some names from a unit which I care very much about who were court martialed after the Emancipation Proclamation because of their views on ending slavery.

The following members of the 43rd NYVI were court martialed for insubordination for refusing to serve after the EP was adopted

Anselm Avery
Michael Van Hook
Caleb Justice
1lt Samuel Winters

But how do you account for the thousands of German immigrants who fought for their new country and the right of the slaves? the Forty Eighters were famous for their views.

The vast majority of Civil War soldiers fought for Union or Confederacy and the form of gevernment the believed. Abolition was a by product of their efforts.

The soldiers fought for themselves and each other....they didn't give a damn about any industrial revolution.

I have not told you how to interpret Chinese history. I have only commented about the governance of the CCP. You, however have attempted to school me on American history and how it should be interpreted.

When you can pass an American civics test, then come talk to me. Your distorted view of the sacrifice of the American soldier is an insult to them.
Albany Rifles,

I don't remember that "I have accused you Americans of not knowing the Chinese".

It is clear, you never read my posts carefully.

Also, you are too late to ask me to pass the American civics test. I have passed graduate level American civics test in one of top US universities.

It was not soliders who decided to start the war. It was leaders on both sides to decide when to start the war. It was them who decided the fate of the soliders.

For the leaders, industrial revolution and free slave were issues for them to start the war.

Based on UnderSpin's logic, that on the Union side “White killed White to free Black”, then, in the Confederacy side “White killed White to continue enslaving Black”.
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