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Old 04-23-2008, 09:09 AM   #48 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by ned kelly View Post
face is a laughable concept to most westerners so we dont view voicing our opinions on a subject as too big a deal.

if you choose to get hurt by it ( and a lot of chinese are ) then you really are handing over your will to the "western" media you cry so much about. who controls your emotions? the western media, the CCP or you yourself?
You are right on. And that's a cultural issue that has to be addressed. Otherwise, Chinese are not ready for human rights and democracy, IMHO. And addressing cultural issues like "face" does not have to be violent or anti-government, it will also benefit the Chinese society in general. CCP needs to relax its control of media as the first step for the culture issues to be re-examined and discussed.

While Westerners see face as a laughable concept, it is dead serious in the East, literally. Face is honor, and honor might be maintained by Seppuku (Suicide by disembowelment) for Japanese Samurai. When you have a subtle value system like this, you have a sad society and a sad history.

Unconciously, Chinese are living for their ancestors and Westerners are living for their offspring.

Let's hope that this Olympic will help them to see something different.
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