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Originally Posted by Fiona Shrot
one can find the political environment in China is far from mature enough to apply democracy.
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There are two situations: one, as what you said, to teach someone a lesson; another, to protect their home and nation.
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Fiona,
Take some time and think about it.
1. CCP will always ensure that the environment will always remain immature. It takes something to give up power. As can be seen from large posters CCP has successfully created this image that without them China will collapse.(Actually CCP is not the only one, in my country too an image has been created that without the gandhi family India will collapse, so this branding is not a communist philosophy but what people do to stay in power and create in the minds of people--even inelligent ones. This kind of thinking hurts my country and I know that it will hurt your too)
Great foresight, renunciation(no longer in modern era) or a sense of imminent collapse or outright toppling is required to give up power. Which path will the ccp choose?
suggest you re-read the posts of OoE and Ray sir. Their convey much more than what one can perceive at a quick read. Its not just opinions what most of us give but understanding of human mind and what works, whats fact and what isnt. I can say for sure OoE knows much better about China than you do.
2.You are not going to get case 1 since even if it is to teach a lesson, CCP will always play it to its people like its to protect their home and nation. Going over the posts of the chinese here who call the 1962 teaching a leson as a protection from aggressive India shows how well China has been able to sell the idea. How would you feel if it ralized to you some day as a mother that your son lost his life trying to teach a lesson but was told he died protecting his nation?
3.CCP know that not only physically can you influence others but also through ideology. Why teach perverted history to its own people to make them bullish about china? Why you see a big gap between the chinese and the westerners-because the westerners are not thought the same history lessons as CCP. Why only maoists are found outside china in its neighbouring regions and not in China?
4. You find tons of chinese posters here saying come to Tibet etc. Obviously ccp's thinking is that if one sees huge buildings in Tibet it means CCP has done great for Tibet and it cannot think any other way. Not everyone has all the money to go to Tibet on every beck and call of a chinese poster? And what about the independent journalist who do want to go there? Why block them? Why have a paraded tour? More so why arent there any Tibetians on the internet from Tibet? Why cant they speak to us openly? If ccp has done so great for them couldnt they provide them a internet connection?
5. Why ccp thinks it can monitor and prevent what the chinese can view on the internet? Does it think it needs to 'protect' them? Its the same 'protected' person who will go on to join the ccp tomorrow with his/her perverted sense of understanding and rule his people isnt it?What really does the ccp have to hide?
Brainwashing can happen in any kind of govt communist, democratic, theocratic by the government or the media or non state actors- its only in a democracy you dont get shot at for asking difficult questions. You need to stay alive to know the truth.
btw its not that democracy wont be without flaws. Anyone who asks or thinks that democracy is without flaws is highly stupid. And if CCP shows flaws in some democracy as a means to stay in power then it thinks its people are are more stupid than it is. How can democracy not have flaws as long as human beings have flaws? But democracy allows those flaws to be seen in public and a problem visible is much better than a problem hidden. If not now atleast in future it will be possible that the problem is corrected in future but a hidden problem is never addressed.