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Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers
Do you even understand the concept of a democracy? It is not about the richest man being president. It's YOU who is going to DECIDE whose message you like best ... or in most cases, hate the least but YOU have to DECIDE. The point about Presidential Democracy is that YOU will have to CHOOSE who you will listen to and follow.
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Sir. Ive lived in a democratic country, but uve never been to China. In fact, after observation and study, one can find the political environment in China is far from mature enough to apply democracy. I used to also believe it can save China, but now I think this idea was too idealist.
You said,The point about Presidential Democracy is that YOU will have to CHOOSE who you will listen to and follow.
Unfortunately, the decisions of most of my people will be affected more or less. China's Gene Index is about 0.5 taking all income into account, indicating the huge wealth gap.
The Real Average Net Income of a Chinese peasant family, who havent abandoned their farmland and been migrant workers in cities, is just about 100 euro/ yr. And China has much mooooore people working for agriculture.
So suppose there would be an election for our future president, what would likely happen? The rich ones will buy the peasants' vote by money. And it is very easy to buy a lot: the peasants are poor and in the need to pay their bills for daughters' education, their treatments in hospital and so on; thus the rich just need to spend not too much in their eyes and can get huge leverage.
Material makes one's consciousness come. During Russia's privatization process, why did the citizens sell their shares at a very low price to some rich individuals? Because they needed bread at that moment This just leaded to a result the government had never expected- the whole economy got controlled by few rich guys, not its people equally.(I learned this from a Russian teacher, but perhaps not very accurate due to linguistic barriers. Just put it here as an example.)
Nevertheless, when can China has a president democracy? In my view, when the society get much more equal and when every family comes to such a stage: on the curve of marginal utility of its income, the slope is negative or positive but not very sharp. At that time, their votes will not be affected easily and the rich will not have that amount of money to determine the results of the election.
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My dear Young Lady, as I stated, a lot of us are soldiers here. Most of you would join the army ... and most of you would run from the battlefield. It takes hard training to just to stay ... and even more training to fight ... and a lot more training not to fight.
They were also soldiers, battle hardened soldiers, not school boys and school girls.
And you're ignoring my question. Would your mother allow you to die just teach someone a lesson?
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Yep, my classmates maybe run away finally
the PLA wont.
For me, the question doesnt make sense. Lets generalize it: whether the parents will allow their children to die in a battlefield. There are two situations: one, as what you said, to teach someone a lesson; another, to protect their home and nation. The former, I even think it is very silly to start the war. For the latter, the best example is that Mao require his son to join the China-Korea and he died in the battlefield, as many other parents did in that war.
I learned something new about Vietnam War and Tienamen Square from you, but I need to check the internet about it more.
Thanks for your discussing. Respects to you, Sir. OOE.