Originally Posted by ba1025

business groups pay a single lobbyist to push the industry viewpoint and get them tax breaks. is that a Union? They are in "negotation" with congressmen. How about the recent bail out on wall street? is that Corporate responsibility. That knife you wield cuts both ways. how about you rail about the cabalist nature of some industries and how they band together to gain influence and WE pay the price of their bad business deciosns through bailouts. My GOD how many times are we going to bail out airlines? They got a kick ass "business" union. There lobbying firm gets them "great contracts" from congress every time they have a slow down.

Name me the publicly traded company that has "treat it's workers fair and pay them as much as the market will bear" in their incorporation papers? all of them say the same thing...maximize shareholder returns. It's the local/national that is bad or good not "unionism" Unionism is just a tool the individual uses to get the most he can. Individuals realize they have no leverage as such when dealng with a 4 billion dollar company but 4000 individuals togather do. It's pretty American. It's bad for corporate profits hence the investor class but how is that bad for the avg joe?


wellness programs are great. Europeans have them They do drive down healthcare costs. We are told people can go to the ER if they have no healthcare not that they can go get help with lifestyle changes so they dont cost us 50k from the heart attacks those big macs are going to give them. An once of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Our costs are driven in part because we choose a pound of cure as the best method