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Originally Posted by ba1025
I'm glad you are enjoying the fruits of this country, but your story is hardly appalling. Everyone has a hardship story but few know actual hardship. Honestly, do you think taking a butt chewing for having a mess in your area is unheard of or bad treatment. Your dad gave you a car! How fortunate. I apologize if this offends you but I think you need to look around a little and re-examine things in comparison to the rest of the world.
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Yes my dad gave me a car i was lucky. In fact my family is/was wealthy. They also believed the little birdie that didn't want to go to college should fly on his own

It wasn't the mess that offended my Employer it was it was the percieved time spent drinking soda over an 8 hr day if i had 4 bottles behind me. In truth i couldn't afford any soda. I often went to bed hungry. That is hardship. i used to steal cans of tuna when i visited and soemtimes my Mom would give me 20 bucks. In the end I am the better for it because I found a way out. I don't resent anyone that struggles and needs help though. I was born bright and ugly

it wasn't a choice.
If every business were run in a benevolent manner I would say we wouldn't have a need for Unionism but. that's as pie in the sky thinking as the thinking behind communism.
I am a pragmatist. I believe the good outweighs the bad with unions. Of course I have seen abuse. For the most part though people want to feel like they are productive at work. They want to go home with some sense of accomplishment. There are some who just want to skate but a lot of them do eliminate themselves. They almost all feel like they are being"screwed" when they are doing the screwing. So many of the whiney miserable lazy people I have worked with have quit for one or another reason. IMO because they couldn't see how the g they worked at. Only the stupid want to kill the goose that lays the golden egg whether they are in a Union trying to "get more" or a lobbyist for Business trying to get "more". If you or I can't see any benefits to unions or see any drawbacks maybe you or I would be well served to put ideology aside and just look the truth. They aren't any worse than company owners. Some are well run with responsible members and some are poorly run with members whose greed. They don't 'extort'. It is not illegal to replace every single striker and NEVER settle with a Union case in point Colt in CT. If a company would rather agree on a contract well...they agreed
I am also glad i am enjoying the fruits of our Country! I think we disagree only on how best to ensure future generations enjoy them.