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Old 04-16-2008, 02:34 AM   #5 (permalink)
ravi12
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ok taking inspiration from Parihaka
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I am Chinese.
I am Indian
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25 years old. Female.
male
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I am studying in the University as a postgraduate.
me too but most probably not in the same university
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As a Chinese, May I ask you westerners a few questions?
I am not a "westener". So can I answer? If you dont want me to answer, big deal . I will answer - reason free speech
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1. Are you living in China or have you been in China for some time? If the answer is NO, then on What basis are you accusing the CCP? So, stop considering yourselves always right. It offended us, ture Chinese.
No, I have never been to China. So now the question, what makes you think that CCP cannot be accused? It is called free speech and ends only when I cant shout "fire" in a crowded theatre.

If it offends you, you have the option of closing your ears and closing your eyes. We do not stop that, nor do we stop you from accusing us back in a non-troll way.

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2. Do you know that your nations achieved industralization at least 100 years earlier than China? Please believe that 100 years later, Chinese people will enjoy much more so-called human rights than you.
My nation didnt achieve industrialization 100 years ago and we are on the path to give the human rights. They are rights you have because you are 'human", which I think I can reasonably assume. You do not get them because you are rich, you do not get them because you own a car or anything else?
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3. Why do you like to have an oar in everyman's boat? Please! Iraq, Ireland and innumerable such affairs are not enough for you to make a racket?
They have built so many oars that their boats were not sufficient, and because they can and because it is in their interests to do so.

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4. How do you know Chinese people are oppressed by the CCP? Funny. My whole family live a much better life than ten years ago. The so-called human rights and freedom are meaningless to common Chines people. We just want to enjoy a rich, peacefull life. And the CCP have done quite well to fullfill these demands. And if you have been in China, you will find that the most majority hold the same opinion with me.
Were you at the TS 1989? Did you speak to the tibetan refugees in India? That YOU and your family got a better life, doesnt mean every "chinese" has. Human rights and freedom might be meaningless to you personally, but the tibetan riots showed that they have value to them.

Fulfilling their demands as if it is alms? That doesnt count. Majority han yes, talk to majority tibetans. Then let me see whether your personal opinion counts.
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5. You always think the western political system is much better than ours, ok, the last question : apply the US political system to china, in which there are at least 1.3billion people, 56 differet peoples, and with all the unfriendly capitalism neighbours, and with the Taiwan, Tibet ,and Xinjiang issues,, are you sur you can deal with it much better than the CCP???
western political system? How about the Indian system - possibly with 1.15 billion and 10000 different people?
56 different people? hey, werent the chinese saying 97%han, I wonder if these 55 different are in the 3%.

capitalism neighbors? Capitalism is a economic principle to which china bowed 30 years ago. You are a capitalist country in a capitalist neighborhood, so whats the big deal?

I may/may not be dealing better than the CCP.
We have our own problems but nobody accuses of cultural genocide and such terms, I wonder why?
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All my classmates and friends are fury about the Dalai Lama.
I am furious about Mao, I am furious about Hu Jintao, I am furious about CCP - so now exactly what? Simple thing I believe its your right to be furious about DL just as it is my right to be furious about these people.
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We all know that CCP has many defects, and in our home, we often criticize it just like you criticize the Washington.
Can you do it in public? Can you organize a protest march against them? Can you change them until they wish to change.

Sitting in a room and criticising hush hushly among your family/parents and then saying - hey dont tell this to anyone. Is this criticism you are talking about?

This is a public forum, MMS (our prime minister) is worthless, he cant do his job. SG(head of ruling party) is simply without brains and think only of her family.

Now I can say this infront of them and you will see thousands of posters in India with a similar theme. This is called criticising and free speech.
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But when it comes to such sovereign issues, we chinese people will regard the CCP as the embodiment of our motherland , and we will try our best to guard her, even the price maybe our young lives.
so now CCP=china, good going

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We want to make friends with people all around the world, but we alse need respect.

We love our motherland, we love China, and we are proud to be Chinese.
as it should be. Trust begets trust and respect begets respect. without trust respect cant exist and without respect, trust cant exist.

If you want me to talk to you as a respectful stranger, I will give you all the respect in the world. But if you have come here representing CCP, I dont give a rat's a**.
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