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Old 04-15-2008, 17:20 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Agnostic Muslim View Post
Salim,

I am not suggesting that the GoP officially (or even clandestinely) wants to reunite India and Pakistan, though given that the leadership of India is reflective of the population of India, and that the overwhelming majority of the Indian diaspora in the States I encounter invariably start calling "partition" a mistake and criticizing Jinnah (quite rude honestly, knowing I am a Pakistani), I am left with the sense that for a lot of Indians, Pakistan is still a tough pill to swallow. I could be wrong, but that is the sense I get from those I meet.

Anyway, what I was referring to were the statements of Indian leaders in the early days after Independence that Pakistan would never survive, and inevitably end up reuniting with India. I was contrasting that position and "atmosphere" with the relationship between Pakistan and Afghanistan (Pakistan and its leadership not having argued for "reunification", enlargement or whatever you want to call it with Afghanistan).

I am arguing over semantics really, so I'll leave it here - lest I further diverge from the subject of the thread.
I am afraid you have been influenced by the Jammait and the RSS nonsence that Pakistan is a tough pill to swallow.

Let's be pragmatic, can Pakistan be captured in totality?

Islam is a religion that has regimentation and speaks of unity amongst Moslems. Hinduism (though not a religion of all Indians) is a hang loose free for all entity, Do as you like type of show - no Sunday to Church (which Indian Christians by and large seem to avoid) and no Friday to the Mosque or prayers five times a day to declare yourself as pious and devout. I do not wish to invite the ire of the Hindus here, but it is too cool a religion to be called a religion!! In fact they have no books on rules how to conduct their lives. Just mythology giving the concept of good and evil and leaving it to them to work it out. Real cool and very chilling out stuff. Chill pill I believe is the modern terminology (Hindus, if you feel I have overstepped,do excuse me!)

Therefore, while Islam has the surge to dream of a ummah, Indians of all religious hues are too busy just to eke an existence and religion is really no big deal here given the general ethos set by the majority religion!!

So, none really thinks that union of Pakistan is desirable. None wants India to be a Moslem majority country. Hindus, Christians or anyone!!

We are happy the irreligious way we have and we don't want to capture Pakistan to have our cool, chill pill life disturbed.

Who care about who said what in history?

We live for the moment and not in history.

Jinnah espoused Secularism once Pakistan was born since he realised that releasing religion on to the masses was the most dangerous thing that could be done. But what of it? Pakistan did not heed his unsaid wise backgrounder!!

Zia thought he was clever by half.

He brought in religion as the be all and end all.

And with Zia perverted counsel, where is Pakistan?

It is being ripped in shreds with contradictions, strife and misguide Islamic zeal in the form of terrorist hell bent in destroying Pakistan!!

It is a sad commentary for a fair deal for Indian Moslem who wanted a homeland, and rightly so, got it as Pakistan for their own!!

And the homeland is being ruined with people there seeking excuses for the ills that they themselves have created and brought upon themselves in the first place!

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Salim/Ray
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