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Old 04-11-2008, 07:28 AM   #29 (permalink)
ba1025
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WorldCitizen,
Wow! Think about what your going to say before you say it!

1st! Would the U.S. defend Canada, and Mexico if attacked?........Yes!
Duh!!......The U.S., Canada, and Mexico have many different religious beliefs, but we don't kill, or hate each other over them!
In Iraq, you got the Sunni's, Shias, and Kurds that all hate each other and try to kill each other in the same country!
Why do you think Iran and Iraq were at war for so long and so many people were killed? They were both of Muslium beliefe, but still hated each other.
Canada, the U.S., and Mexico, all believe in pretty much believe that everyone has the right to "Freedom Of Religion!"
Since we are together as one, we will defend our rights!!

Anglo-American Invaision????!!!
Let me ask you! Is the world a better place without Saddam killing people that are not of his race or religion?
Like killing thousands of Kurds with chemical weapons?
I tell you what, maybe you should ask some older experience people about Hitler? OH! Wait! that might be a wrong question for you!
Irianians hate Jews and want to see them......excuse me, "WIPED OF THE FACE OF THE EARTH!"

Your other statement about the U.S. playing the "WORLD COP" roll!!
I'm just going to laugh at you for this statement! Why? Because the U.S. is the most powerful country in the world! If we did nothing...........oh like feed the starving nations, help other countries that were invaded, or whatever, you, YES YOU!! would be the fist person to B*TCH about how the U.S. is so rich and does nothing!!
Read my past threads about how superpowers are, "DAMNED IF THEY DO, AND DAMNED IT THEY DON'T!!".

Your last statment...........you said something about that maybe the U.S. caught Saddam, and that they should have paraded him around to let the world know!.....What do you mean?..........Like parade how Insurgents parade dead American troops that have been killled?
Oh!........the U.S. can do that!!.........but we're not going to stoop to your level!!
Be clear on a few things. When Saddam was practicing genocide against the Kurds we were supplying him with military tech and supporting him against Iran. Remember the famous picture of Rummy shaking his hand on the Tarmac in Baghdad in 1985? If we were willing to spend blood to stop genocide we'd be in Darfour. The bloodiness of his regime is a revisionist reason for being there.

The shia were slaughtered when they rose up on our encouragement and we did nothing

Saddam, Sadr, Malaki.... the names change the policies will remain the same toward minority populations. How is having Shia kill Sunni any better than having Sunni kill shia? It's not like ethnic violence was higher in 2002 than it was in 2007. more ethnic killings have taken place since we ended the Secular regime of Saddam than the entire reign of Saddam. Here's another tidbit. What about the christians in IRAQ? have you read about how all our freedom has helped them. They all left or went underground. No more public celebrations of Xmas, no more liquor stores etc etc. We cleared teh way for Islamic law and destroyed secularism. Women used to be able to go out with uncovered heads....used to. It's great to say my country right or wrong but really WE WERE ****ING DISASTEROUSLY WRONG if we imagined invading Iraq would be good for us.



The best thing we can do with Iran is promote alternative energy. With the rise in oil prices we have propped up that govt with our own $. There economy is a ruin w/o $100 a barrel oil. Our poor policies are why the Iranian people haven't removed their own govt. Iranians as a people are not hostile to us and if they felt the pain of that govts failed economic policies domestically it would be history. So, the best thing we can do is create downward pressures on oil prices which will create increasing civil unrest inside Iran.
We know that govt system is the suck w/o huge oil revenues.

Myself I care about the interest of the USA of A and I'd of preferred a state opposed to Iran and bottled up with sanctions rather than a Puppet if the Badr brigade comes out on top or an ally if Sadr does. make no mistake one or the other will of siezed power after we leave. Invading Iraq was about non existent WMDs, then about taking down Saddam, then about bringing democracy...talk about mission creep. Anyway it was a blunder in a realpolitik world.

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