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Old 04-06-2008, 13:04 PM   #26 (permalink)
GraniteForge
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The flip side of this of cause is the **** American weapons that I have had to use and these are –

- The M60 GPMG – sorry it was cumbersome, fouled easy, parts rattle like hell when patrolling and a weak bipod. (Prefer the MAG-58 or MG 3).
- M16A1 /AR-15 – Early 5.56mm round crap (then again I have always thought the 5.56mm round compared to the 7.62mm round – For when I hit someone, I never want them to get up again);

You have found out that the after stupid amounts of expenditure and R&D that –
The M249 SAW (Belgian), M240 GPMG (Belgian), Metal Storm (Australian),…………………… Are all to your want and needs!

Pioneer
I agree that the M240 and MG3 are both fine guns (although I like the slower cyclic rate of the MG74), but I have not found the M60 to be especially cumbersome when compared with them. Neither have I found it to foul "easily," or have a weak bipod. I put a long belt through an M60 last night just to refresh my experience, from the bipod, off the shoulder, and on the move, and yes, its still a fine machine gun. It wasn't badly fouled afterwards, either, and I was using some relatively dirty ammo.

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- M16A1 /AR-15 – Early 5.56mm round crap (then again I have always thought the 5.56mm round compared to the 7.62mm round – For when I hit someone, I never want them to get up again)
Good luck with that. When I was young, I met a German who had been struck by a Soviet 76.2 mm solid shot AT round. He lost his arm and part of the shoulder, survived the end of the war, and went on to US service. I met him in a VA Hospital, after his retirement.

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The M249 SAW (Belgian), M240 GPMG (Belgian), Metal Storm (Australian),…………………… Are all to your want and needs!
Based on my experience, I sometimes think of the M249 as the modern Chauchaut. They never run well, and often don't run at all. The magazine-feed feature is more theoretical than useful. There have been some improvements over time, but I still don't want to shoot one, because of all the maintenance that each trigger pull generates.

As to "Metal Storm:" They may actually have a product one day, but today is not the day. Considering that this concept has been worked on off and on since the 1700s, I am not holding my breath.
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