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Originally Posted by cdude
I don;t know what would happen if the Mongols didn't conquer the Song. We northerners always like to go south and beat up the southerners. Sooner or later, if it's not the Mongols, the Manchus would do it anyways. Weather north of the Great Wall is just too rough!
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It might have been the other way around with the Soong marching north though I doubt it. The Soong were on the edge of another technological leap. They were perfecting the canon to the point that it could be mass produced. There were advances in personal firearms though I doubt those would have the same impact since archers on horseback were far more lethal and the firearms of the period were notoriously inaccurate.