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Originally Posted by WorldCitizen
As we've discussed earlier, if one of your enemies invaded and occupied Mexico, or Canada, would you do nothing? Or would you seek to "influence"?
There was no justification for the Iraqi invasion of Quwait. Just as there was no justification for the Anglo-American invasion of Iraq.
I value human life, human rights, international law etc. If the finger is pointed at the US, it might be because it needs to be pointed. Many people feel that the US acts as a self appointed world cop, transcending international law. This might be why the finger is pointing the way it is. Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of religious extremism, but the scale of destruction the US leaves in it's wake puts it at the top of the list for finger pointing.
I'm not sure that's true. They needed to be able to parade him on television.
Shall I take the obvious ones? The US backed invasion of Iran? Resulting in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people. Liquidation of the Kurds?
A worthwhile read:
Did Saddam Die For Our Sins? - International Justice - Global Policy Forum
The cheek!! Am I your research assistant now??  |
*Would we kill in the name of religion? Because you are not Sunni or Shiite or because maybe you are not an Arab from that region. Would we assinate the leaders with explosions etc. No. Would we be vigil? Absolutely.
*Oh but there was justification. Killing thousands, Deny nuclear specialist to weapons sites in denial of U.N. sanctions and threaten with WMD's etc. There most certainly was reason for it.
*Your self appointed "world cop".
A brief history lesson for you. When the U.S.,Britian, Russia and the other major powers emerged from WWII they did so with alot of responsibility to put things back together after many nations saw fit to stand by and watch Hitler run across Europe and the Japanese across the Pacific and destroy cultures,people,governments,institutions etc without a care.
We did not have to go to War against Germany because we were not attacked by them but the extermination of the Jewish descent demanded the world do something and Britan needed our help and France needed theirs. We needed Austrailia,Canada and every other major force to help us help them.
It is only due to economics, industry and other reasonings that the U.S. became the power that it has,.Because we are a system of laws and rights much like other countries and Allies but immigration to this country has brought us the best the world has to offer and still does to this day. We have immigrant from virtually every country in the world and if you ask most will tell you they are American. And we treat them as such.
As far as destruction goes if they would present themselves on a battlefield like men do and not hide behind women,children,hospitals,mosques etc then it could have all been over quickly. Unfortunately it is not that way and countries allow Preachers (Imams or the like) to preach hatred towards one another not religion which is exactly what they are supposed to be teaching. Tolerance,Acceptance,Love Forgiveness etc. They hide and fight over religion and nothing else. What happens at the end of all days and we find out that we were all wrong about our religions? Did millions have to die for it? No they didnt but it seems they only way they know how to live.(Not all mind you).
I could tell you right off that if I was one of those soldiers who found him your dam right I would have it in my heart to kill him then and now. My reasoning, I gave up my family,wife,children,home,job,school,friends, social life, (shower,bed,real food and comfort
) and everything that makes my life worth living that I have worked for in order to travel thousands of miles from home to get shot at,bombed, knifed,hated and cursed and watched my friends be murdered in order to help free a culture of people from a murderous regime. One that we are still finding bodies from and will for the next 10 years no doubt and you say so they could parade him around?
IMO I would say those gentlemen (perhaps ladies as well no offense) showed more restraint then anyone I have ever seen in my life and considering all of those things that were given up in order to help these people that sends a silent message of not only respect,dignity and honor but also how we treat people and to what laws our armed forces are held to. Go find that with your religious warring factions that will cut your throat in the street wether you are guilty of a real crime or not. I bet you come up empty in all cases.
Let me share this with you. We in the U.S. dont parade criminals around nor ballistic missles, burn other countries flags or anything of the sort in a state function nor most others to suite our political needs. We dont need to advertise we are a power. If power needs to be projected it will come from the President and no one else not some idiot screaming rhetoric and threatening another nation with total destruction.
We are a country of laws not grandstanding and hot tempers and intolerance.
The Kurds:
I think you will find if you read that U.S. forces since 1992 have protected the Kurds as well we have had our problems to date. Nothing is perfect.
Research assistant:
No you are not my research assistant but I as well am not going to do your homework for you. You made the point so you can do your homework as well.