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Old 03-29-2008, 01:38 AM   #184 (permalink)
Adux
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Originally Posted by 7thsfsniper;
474960People can hate the west, blame the west, whatever. I think they are just jealous. Maybe if they get together and overthrow thier oppressors on thier own like we did(absolutely no offense to the Brits here) they would have more pride in what they accomplish and try harder to preserve it.
Hardly,

If you were plundered for 200 years, killed, enslaved and all. I dont think jealousy would be first emotion. But then again it is different era, different rules. The West forgets that there were great civilizations before it came along, The world did not start the last 500 years.China and India were the economic superpowers of the world for centuries and the bastion of science, military and academics. And before that was the Middle east and Egypt. Anyways lead civilization will always rise and fall, just like a boom and a recession. The only constant thing in this world is 'change'.

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AG and Adux- Good jousting- but I think you guys are stuck in a loop now. To be honest, I think a bit over analyzed. In the end doesn't it come down to being treated like you would want to be treated(regardless of religion). Sharia just isn't for me or anyone I know and if I see some jerk beating his wife or comitting any other assinine, cruel, "punishment" as prescribed by such I will not apologize after giving him some of his own medicine.
Yup,

He still hasnt told me how an Islamic governace will be equal at the same time be true to the term 'Islamic'. It cant, therefore the whole 'Islamic state' term should be put in the bin. Too many people have died, too many are suffereing under them. Democratic Secular and Humanistic government is the answer.
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