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Originally Posted by astralis
tigger,
however, he DID make one (somewhat) salient point, which OoE has mentioned here:
"The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact, non-Westerners never do."
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Cuz' that's how s**t gets done!
Who wouldn't love a world where we could sit down at a table and work everything out without war or killing. Unfortunately table sittin' always seems to follow the whoopin' because of extremist nutjobs that refuse to recognize basic human rights and don't understand anything else. I've worked in law enforcement and personal protection in all its facets. Every single time I stopped a bad guy from whailing on an innocent I got nothing but gratitude. Makes sense, huh? Thing is, some bullys you can tell to stop and they do because they are just smart enough to know they are about to get an attitude adjustment and realize what they are doing really isn't right. Some are just stupid and only understand one thing. I treat people like I would want to be treated. As I have stated earlier and i can't remember if it was this thread or another, but I help people in need of assistance. I would also hope that someone would help me if I needed it. And I won't walk up to you with a bomb and kill innocents in the process. I'll do my best to give you a first class, 50 cent, precision delivery, full metal jacket ticket to the heaven of your choice so the rest us can try to have some chance to live in peace.
I served with several hundred thousand men and women who think just like that. Americans have fought on nearly every foriegn soil and for what. Money, oil, land, what? The only land we ever asked for was to bury our dead. And we're not alone. Brits, Canadians, Aussies, (you know the rest). Politicians don't always represent thier people. The people I know are ready and willing to help.
People can hate the west, blame the west, whatever. I think they are just jealous. Maybe if they get together and overthrow thier oppressors on thier own like we did(absolutely no offense to the Brits here) they would have more pride in what they accomplish and try harder to preserve it.
AG and Adux- Good jousting- but I think you guys are stuck in a loop now. To be honest, I think a bit over analyzed. In the end doesn't it come down to being treated like you would want to be treated(regardless of religion). Sharia just isn't for me or anyone I know and if I see some jerk beating his wife or comitting any other assinine, cruel, "punishment" as prescribed by such I will not apologize after giving him some of his own medicine.