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Adux · 03-27-2008, 16:33 PM

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Aani_Fatimah_Khatoon 1 week ago

Everyone knows what the call to prayer is. It's ALWAYS in Arabic, even in foreign countries. And if portions of the Melkite Catholic Pre-sanctified Liturgy were broadcast on loudspeaker in their native Arabic (yes, there is a Catholic church the official language of which is Arabic), what outrage would you have seen.

This is about: "Hey, we'll prove we're multicultural by letting you do a Muslim call to prayer, after which you can claim that Harvard is dar-al-Islam forever, when we wouldn't think of letting a rabbi perform a Bat Mitzvah on the steps of Widener. And that's because we're scared to death that if we don't pander to your every wish, you'll bomb something."

Get real. Everybody knows what it means — or they should, which is why I'm glad the authors wrote this piece and explained what is being said. Is Nazi screed less offensive if it's spoken in German.

I think we should handle it this way. We've just had Islam Awareness Week. Now let's have, and turn the Yard over to all the following groups for a week.

Judaism Awareness Week
Zionism Awareness Week
Hindutvu Awareness Week (expect a riot from Muslims on this)
Roman Catholic Awareness Week
Southern Baptist Awareness Week *
Nation of Islam Awareness Week *
Confucianism Awareness Week
Buddhism Awareness Week (the Chinese government will send a letter to Dr. Faust complaining)
Ismaeli Awareness Week (the Saudi government will send a letter to Dr. Faust complaining)
Neo-Nazi Awareness Week
Hinduism Awareness Week (the Muslims from India will send ... well, you get it)
Goddess Religion Awareness Week

You will NEVER get the Fellows of Harvard University to allow the Jews, the Southern Baptists, the Hindutvu or the skinheads to have an "awareness" week, and likely not the Catholics, either. Why? Because anti-Christian and anti-Israel sentiment runs high among liberals—and the Nation of Islam, the Southern Baptists, and the skinheads have racist views.

But does it occur to Harvard that having an Islam Awareness Week would offend feminists and humanists who believe women should have equal rights? or the Jews, whom HAMAS declared last week should be exterminated to the last person and said it was a REQUIRED view of all Muslims?

So, I would suggest this. If Harvard wants to turn the Yard over to religious groups, do it fairly. If Harvard doesn't want to examine a religion for supremacist views, the running of an extrajudicial police force worldwide, denigration of and a required tenet of war against non-practitioners, anti-woman and anti-gay laws, death sentences issued by religious authorities, and anti-freedom of speech tenets like holding apostasy and disallowed speech (blasphemy) and requiring beheading for them — then Harvard should allow all other groups to do the same, without passing any judgment at all about whether they advocate racial, gender, or ethnic disparity — or violence towards non-adherents.

Are you willing to give the microphone to a neo-Nazi who quotes a speech from Hitler on loudspeaker in German? You think nobody will get the message?

Do it for everybody if you'll do it for one and make your position clear. If we will not examine Islam for who it offends, but give it a pass simply because it's a religion, then I think that the Southern Baptists should have the same right.

Yes, I'm being facetious.

* This one will come with racist views, but nobody will mind, because we're just all ever-so, ever-so tolerant all of viewpoints, right?

* Ditto.

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Espada ...

Telling the truth isn't hatred. Telling the truth offers the possibility that Muslims living under repressive regimes that will be there, West or no West, as long as mullahs and imams run the countries according to anti-human rights extreme shari'a law.

Now, either the issue is people's freedom and their right to a rights-based culture. "Democracy" won't necessarily work in cultures, like Iran, where "democracy" is defined by who the Guardian Council and Ayatollah Khamenei decide are appropriate candidates or in Egypt, where the Muslim Brotherhood has been organizing for 50 years to take the first election and declare shari'a law and slap every woman in the country into cover overnight.

Rights-based culture is a human right, and therefore those Islamic countries which refuse to provide it, engaging instead in dicta that guarantee male supremacy (female suppression being the last and most virulent form of peonage) and the rule of religious, not civil, law.

Now you can get that or not, but I completely resent your intimating that because I speak out about it I am bigoted, something I believe you also intimate is a moral condition of the authors of this editorial. Perhaps this is sour grapes, growing more acidic every time they refuse (which I believe is their right) to publish (free) your conspiracy theory mania.

But that's not actually what I think ...

I think you're taqqiyah.

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Now, next time Harvard thinks about doing this, note:

According to the Umdat al-Salik, o11.5, issued by Al Azhar University in Cairo, the ultimate authority on all things Sunni Islamic, in order for a church or temple or synagogue to be allowed in a non-Muslim land, there are RULES:

(1) The ringing of CHURCH BELLS and the displaying of crosses is FORBIDDEN.

(2) No other house or worship of any kind may EVER have a steeple, temple spire (Hindu), puja, totem or any other kind of symbol of its presence higher than the minaret that calls Muslims to prayer.

There are at least 120 other rules about what is NOT allowed of worshippers of other religions. Because in Saudi Arabia and Iran conversion to other religions is apostasy, punishable by death, I think the case is already made. At least in Malaysia all you get is a year in a "re-education" camp. Ask Lina Joy, an adult and supposedly fee woman, what it feels like to be forced in to "Islamic education school" every day for six months.

Now, next time Harvard decides to have an "Islamic Awareness Week" I hope they will take these pertinent points into consideration.

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