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Old 03-27-2008, 13:45 PM   #111 (permalink)
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I am not contradicting myself - I don't see an issue with a moderate Islamic State providing equality in law and rights to all people irrespective of religion or ethnicity. Spiritually yes, you could argue that Muslims believe their religion is the "only true one" and that "they alone shall recieve God's favor" - but that is no different from any other religion, and that should not prevent moderates from extending all rights to all people politically, in this life.
That is the promise of the "liberal/moderate parties in Pakistan".

From the PPP manifesto:

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The first principle of the Party is: Islam is our Faith. Islam teaches brotherhood, love and peace. Our Faith places a responsibility on each citizen to reach out in a spirit of accommodation and tolerance to all religions and sects and to treat people of all faiths with respect, enabling them to enjoy religious freedom and equality before
the law.

The message of Islam is the message of Peace. It is a message of brotherhood and tolerance. These are symbolised in the words and verses of Data
Sahib, Shah Abdul Latif of Bhittai, Baba Farid Ganj Shakar and Lal Shahbaz Qalander.

The second principle of the PPP is: Democracy is our Politics. The PPP’s commitment to freedom and fundamental rights, including freedom from hunger and want, is written in the blood of its martyrs and in the red marks of lashes on the back of its workers. It is written in the suffering and sacrifice of Quaid-e–Awam, who faced the gallows refusing to bow before tyranny, defending the human rights of our citizens to the last breath.

The third PPP principle is: Social Democracy is our Economy. The PPP aims at creating a just and equitable society with equal opportunity for all its citizens.

The final principle of the PPP is All Power to the People. Only the people have the right on earth to determine their destiny and chart the course of their Nation. All organs of State must be answerable to the Court of the people in an election or through their legitimately elected representatives in Parliament.
http://www.ppp.org.pk/manifestos/2008.pdf
I don't see anything in the above arguing for intolerance towards non-Muslims.
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And for the rest of the post, as i said use'em on people who dont know the region.
I afraid I can't do that, since you have already beaten me to it. I understand that there are some here who share your hatred, and cheer lead your efforts, but that doesn't make your argument any more valid.

On the poll issue:
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Terror Free Tomorrow's poll also found that Pakistani's public support for radical Islamic groups -- including al Qaeda, its leader Osama bin Laden, and the Taliban -- has significantly dropped in the past five months.

In August, 46 percent of Pakistanis polled in a TFT survey said they had a favorable opinion of bin Laden; that dropped to 24 percent in last month's poll. Support for the Taliban dropped during the same time period from 38 to 19 percent.
In the News Archive - Polls: Musharraf, al Qaeda losing support
It would be even more interesting to find out whether those that did support OBL thought he was responsible for terrorism and 911.

I'll see if I can dig up some more recent and more detailed polls.
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