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Old 03-19-2008, 21:50 PM   #70 (permalink)
Chunder
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Originally Posted by citanon View Post
Obama has already come out and humiliated Wright, distanced himself from the guy's positions. He's also humiliated his grandmother, so your part about familial love is kind of moot. All it would have taken was a simple sentence: "Over the years I have tried to convince Rev. Wright that his convictions are wrong..."

But then, even if he could get around all that, his speech still shows that he's a socialist.

I don't think he has humiliated him - he hasn't disowned him as a pastor, but he clearly rejects the statements.

Thats a distinct parrallel.

He hasn't humiliated his grandmother. During those times and still in these times in some areas, people are taught to mistrust others not like them. Or view them as lessors, and it is clearly representative in the laws of those times.

I take the position and I used the family one that publicly humiliating my sister infront of others at a restaurant wasn't a wright (enjoy the pun on words) thing to do.

Religeon forms a big part in some peoples life. So do peoples views and goals, and they do diverge. Wright IMO used his congregations fame to draw attention to his 'flock' and it backfired on him. Thats humiliation enough. I think that the (not yours) but axe wielding sentiment of some that this qualifies Obama (a well educated Black man) as a racist. Thats a pretty insulting label. Obama merely said in his speech, he understood where it could come from. and thats critical. Not to segregate and divide further, but to 'understand it'.

And So what if he appears to hold some Socialist views. By his views do you also Hold the Canada, U.K, Spain, Australia, New Zealand, Germany, Finland, Sweden, Denmark, Belgium, Norway as evil bad socialist countries. It's just a label.

Guess what... on the index Many of the beat the Good Ol USA on the living standards index, many of them with just an honorable, if not More honorable history of defending human rights and making freedom earlier than the U.S.A, and fighting dying along side of you in pretty much every war the U.S.A Agitates for since the 20th Century? If being Socialist means not voting for a war based on dodgy bloody intelligence and billigerance, then he can join the Whopping 70 + percent something of Britons that didn't support the war, the Astounding 85 + % of Australians that Didn't support the war... these statistics say a hell of a lot about hyperbole and chest thumping don't they!!!

Evil 'Socialist' countries that militarily deploy per capita just as much as the USA. Countries with populations that hate arrogance. Countries that nevertheless fight alongside you in war.
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