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Originally Posted by troung
They conquered the Song, Jin and Korea. They probably killed more people in the far East then in Europe during the invasion period.
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Song and Jin = China.
Korea? they lost hundreds of thousands of soldiers over a tribute nation.
Okay lets see....Did they conquer the South East Asian empires? no
Japan? no the Samurai made mince meat out of the first fleet of invaders.
Vietnam? they got their ass sent back packing.
India? no
Other eastern nations? Indonesia? phillipines? malaysia? no
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Originally Posted by troung
Pretty much the same as the Kipchaks or any other Turkic group, Khitans, Jurchens or other horse peoples. Which is why those people fit in so easily to the Mongol structure (which was a refining of the systems of organization of past steppe tribal confederations).
And their arrow shooting was hardly super human.
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Their bows were the most powerful bows at that period. They could shoot far further with devasting impact. Even the Chinese crossbow could not even match their recurve bows which a much older version used by Parthia wrecked the romans in the battle of carrhae where 40000+ romans were all slaughtered by 9000 parthian horse archers with barely any loses on parthian side.
Now take that legion and compare it with a much more terrifying, disciplined, nomadic horsemen army(whom have spent most of their life riding on a horse and hunting with their recurve bows) and with huge arsenals of the most advanced siege weaponry of that time and lets not even talk about the death rates of the romans. It would be like a lion fighting a dog. Over before you know it.