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Originally Posted by ChrisF202
Yes but the point is that many of the recent immigrants ARE NOT proud about the UK, they see themselves as part of group X and not British or English, Scottish, etc.
Its very much the same thing here with the illegal (and in many cases the legal) immigrants. They are not coming to the US because they want to be Americans; they are coming because the know the government will give them whatever they demand and pander to them at the expense of the taxpayer (who is labeled a racist Nazi if they dare complain).
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What the heck has that got to do with what I posted, or indeed the topic of the thread

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I'm not claiming that a pledge should be inclusive and secular to pander to immigrants, I think it should be inclusive and secular because not everyone in any one country will come from the exact same Religious or Ethnic groupings - That is not to say that there isn't pride in the shared national identity, but a pledge should represent
everyone who lives in the land, make them equally proud, and be a beacon to which all the people can unite, regardless of what else divides them.
I have loads of friends from different ethnic backgrouds who all call themselves Irish, true and true - Our nation has become a patchwork of diversity that stands very proud under one green, white and orange banner.....why not have a pledge that does the same?
In varietate concordia , my friend

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