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Old 03-07-2008, 17:22 PM   #21 (permalink)
zraver
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Originally Posted by Triple C View Post
My sources didn't say so. My sources say that the Pz IV was barely better or marginaly inferior to 75mm Sherman and T-34-76. When I was in a web forum some guy insisted that the Pz IV was inpenetrable; thinking back, he probably arrived to that conclusion without knowing that the Pz IVH's turret was not uparmored.
What I was saying is that the allies saw ever German AFV with a canon as a Panther or Tiger.

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The British "Challenger" is awesome, in the Iraqi war they fired spent uranium shells which could penetrate the thickest of armour exploding inside & spraying the crew with molten metal & sometimes even blowing the turret clean off, the firing these shells was abandoned when some British crews were quite badly affected by handling the shells as they loaded them.
In Iraq the British used the Chally 1 with the L11A5 rifled 120mm. They did not use depleted Uranium sabots. Rifling is bad for velocity and unbalances a fin stabilized round. British doctrine called for using HESH (high explosive squash head) this round was basically plastic explosive that would impact, conform to the area and detonate. The shock waves would then travel through the armor knocking pieces off the inside. These pieces are call spall, he process is spalling. Spall acts like a bullet vs flesh and hoses, and is also incredibly hot and can ignite fluids and ammunition.

it must be noted that for non-finned rounds or non-KE weapons rifling is more accurate. The two longest shots via a tank gun in history both go to british rifled guns. The longest kill was made by a Challenger 1 in 1991 using the L11A5, and the longest hit was against a Syrian bulldozer by the IDF firing from an American made clone of the British Royal Ordnance L7.

Also DU is inert, you can eat the stuff without harm. The only evidence that it may become dangerous is after an very energetic impact with a hard surface like armor.

Foremost, please think before you type.
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