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Originally Posted by Dreadnought
My first thoughts over your comments I looked upon with open criticisms but when I read what was written about the Kirovs being able to supposedly take 4 Harpoons and be able to set the battle tone against the Iowas by speed or tracking measures then I knew I was dealing with someone that dont know the very first thing about a Harpoon missle strike nor what its intended purpose was. Kirov would take all but 1 missle from a calculated angle of approach of a Harpoon. And any certified Naval strategist could easily verify this as being "not theory".
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Has it ever happened?
Then it is theory.
I hark back to 1991 when the USS Missouri was attacked by 2 HY-2 missiles (dramatically less of a worry I think you might agree than 20 Granit) and didn't even know it until men on the bridge spotted them with the Mk 1 eyeball. That doesn't give me a lot of hope.
Your making arguments from authority here -
It is so because I say so and you'll just have to accept that. That's all fine and dandy, but not very convincing. I have my
experts too, and they wouldn't necessarily agree with you.
I'm trying to put forward an argument that a ship designed for the specific purpose of not just attacking, but commanding attacks on carrier battlegroups at very long range while surviving attacks by said carriers air group will have an advantage on a WWII relic with a very austere modernization geared primarily towards land attack. Kirov is likely to get off the first shot, which an Iowa is not equipped to defend against. I think that's a viable argument and you haven't presented anything beyond
because I say so to demonstrate otherwise.
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As expected you sound just like many others.
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That's not a
theory, it's a fact. The Iowa's have taken on an almost mythical status for many, but when you look at them objectively it is hard to see why. The U.S. Navy at the time certainly regarded them as aberations, a special type, not be be repeated. They were a very expensive means of making a 33-knot South Dakota, which is fundamentally what they were, and nobody waxes on about the all-conquering South Dakota class. By the time they were completed they were already at least obsolescent. Other than the sex-appeal factor that goes with all battleships I just don't see the attraction.