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Old 01-31-2008, 01:33 AM   #503 (permalink)
lwarmonger
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Originally Posted by Bluesman View Post
They can think whatever the hell they'd like, but if we simply won't allow it - and I and Podhoretz and dalem all agree that we should NEVER allow it - then it's simply going to remain an unrealized wish.

I agree that it DOES represent a problem in the abstract, as in, whatever they're determined to do and we're determined to prevent will remain a point of conflict. But this is really the bottom line: it comes down to WILL. If we are determined enough to prevent it - and we certainly SHOULD be - then we have the means to do so, and they do NOT have the means to assert their own will.

And that's independent of whether we have set up a puppet government or destroyed huge numbers of Iranians. We can deny them nukes for as long as we maintain the will to do so.

And we SHOULD.
The point I'm trying to make is that this problem won't find a solution in regime change or damaging the Iranian government because it springs from what the Iranian people believe is a right. Now if that attitude persists eventually they will get the bomb unless we install a government that is pliable (with its own set of problems).

If one looks at the long term problems of containment, it isn't really one that a democracy like the US is equipped to sustain. I agree that it is something we need to do and could, I just don't think that the American public is prepared to do it... meaning puppet government or nuclear war are the two likely outcomes.

My money is on Israel.
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