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Originally Posted by gunnut
How about this? Let's remove immigration restriction for a single country, say India. Any Indian who wants to come here can do so. No questions asked. We won't even bother with papers. Just come in and do whatever they want. We'll count them as "undocumented workers." After a while we'll bring them out of the shadows and give them a pathway to citizenship. Are you OK with that? All other countries need to wait for our immigration quota. Sit on the list and wait for a few years when their turn comes up. In fact, we'll make the wall so high and the door so narrow for Mexico that it's nearly impossible for anyone to come in from there. But we'll have an open-border policy with India. How do you like that?
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That's our immigration policy for you, for the past 25 years. We fvcked up hardcore. Thus its unfair AND unrealistic that a solution should come down on these 12 million with undo harshness. Whatever the solution is, it must accept that we have known about this since the Reagan days and no one since was ever serious about solving it till terrorism hit us. And also accept that the threat of terror never justifies attrition.
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Originally Posted by gunnut
I'm not saying we don't let a single Mexican come over. I'm just saying I want them to go through the process. We need to secure the borders with high walls and armed patrols who have the authority to shoot people who taunt our border agents. We also need temperary worker's program. Mexicans should be able to go through a quick process to obtain a visa so they can work here. If they really like this place and want to stay longer, then apply to immigrate. Meanwhile, if they have kids here, the kids shouldn't be freely given citizenship. But the kids will be citizens upon the parents become citizens, and will be treated as native born citizens. If the parents just want to work here for a few years so they can retire in Mexico, I don't see the need to give their kids born here citizenships. They have no intention of being part of our nation.
Is that more clear?
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Please elaborate how we could coax 12 million people to leave with the prospect of easy re-entry. You'd have a hell of a time pulling it off, because they have kids here and hopes for their futures, jobs, and everything else. There are also many in the Latino community who wield a line that we've been hearing from the black community since slavery: with our labor we carry this country on our backs and the government fights us every step of the way.
Not good. That attitude is bad for the cohesiveness of American society, and forcing Latinos, directly or indirectly, to go home and come back again will only feed the fire.
I worked on enough construction sites to see what kind of hours Mexican painters, tile setters, and stonemasons put in. I lost my job (in part) because of them but that doesn't mean they don't work. You're wrong on that account. Again, if you love your country, welcome the immigrants who are here, legally or illegally, because they make America stronger