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Originally Posted by FibrillatorD
Gunnut, stop contorting this problem into analogies that don't fit.
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How does that not fit? Why don't you give me an analogy that fits.
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Originally Posted by FibrillatorD
It isn't a trespassing problem or a cutting-in-line problem. The scale of it makes for a hell of an extenuating circumstance. I haven't heard you suggest a viable solution to it either -and 12 million Latinos living underground is a problem for you too.
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It isn't? Why not? We have hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of people all over the world who want to come here. They applied and waited and shelled out the money, jumped the hoops, so they can gain legal entrance. Then there are those who just hopped the fence, pop some babies, bam, American citizen. Do you know who gets preferential treatment when applying for citizenship? That's right, those who are related to an American citizen. Meanwhile there are those people who must spend years on the waiting list to get a visa to work here, and then bring their families here. But wait, that's not all. They must then get their permanant residency. After 5 years of spotless record as a permanant resident, could they hope to become citizens.
Not cut in line? You have no idea.
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Originally Posted by FibrillatorD
Black market/criminal activity? Give them a plot in society on which to build a life in the daylight. You want them to speak English? Welcome them. Want to stop subsidizing Mexicans? Recognize that they're Americans already
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Right, make it tough and hard to be an illegal. But make it easy to go through the process so they feel like they are part of the system. HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO REPEAT MYSELF? Do you have a selective reading comprehension problem?
What do you prize more? Something freely handed to you or something you worked and earned? Why should we freely handout our citizenships to people who don't even care much this country? Many people come here to work and then go home. If they never had the intention of joining this nation, why should we make their kids one of us?
I love this country. I am more American than most native born Americans. I treasure my citizenship. I want to be buried here after I die because this is my home. I don't want to be anywhere else on this earth. Why is it that I had to work so hard, waited for years on the list before I could even set foot in this country, hope and pray that the interview with the INS went well and we could be granted permanant residency, make sure I have 5 years of spotless record, before I could earn my citizenship? Why is it that some people just hop the fence, give birth to kids, and then granted a pathway to citizenship when some of them don't even care about it?
Note: I do not support mass deportation. My solution is to make it easy and worthwhile for illegals to leave and re-enter legally.