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I'm glad you brought up Darren Lehman, as it is a classic example of the sort of double standard I am talking about.
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Bigfella, so banning the Pakistani captain for doing something, and then letting the same actions conducted by the Australian captain pass by, is not double standards? It is easy to call others delusional, maybe you should think about that before doing so.
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His comments were not made on the field & were not directed at anyone specifically. He immediately apologised & accepted his punishment like a man. He did not deny or pretend he didn't say it. Australians did not claim some 'KGB-like' conspiracy. The ACB did not throw a tantrum. In fact, they made him go to counselling to make sure he understood why what he had done was wrong.
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Because he was GUILTY of making those comments. Bhajji is NOT. I don't think Bhajji would even bother lying had he made those comments as he and everyone in the cricketing world
knows that there are microphones placed inside the pitch, and that they are even being recorded by cameras all over the stadium. There is absolutely no evidence against Bhajji. Now tomorrow, if an Indian player says that Ponting made racist comments against him, yet there is absolutely nil evidence that he did, you would still brand Ponting a racist and ban him? I don't think so, I am sure your reaction would be very different.
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Personally I think he got off lightly, but that was up to the officials. Other than that it sounds like a good example of Australia taking the issue seriously. Pity India can't grow up & do the same.
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Lets not get over our heads here, Bhajji's case is still not over.
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As for my comments on skill, that is very much what this is about. India is losing & they don't like it. Instrad of getting on with the game they are making excuses for their own failings. It is the loser's way.
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There is a good reason Bucknor sits out. Had the game been on skill, India had won this match fair and square; but it wasn't on skill, the game was run by the umpires, who ensured that Indian batsmen (Dravid and Ganguly) got out on pad knicks and grounded bump catches meanwhile Aussie batsmen kept on playing despite knicking the ball and placing lbws.
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In Melbourne Ponting refused to claim a catch he felt had not carried. There are numerous examples of Australians having done this over the past decade, often in situations where they could have claimed the catch & no one would have been the wiser. In 1987 the career of Australian keeper Greg Dyer ended when he claimed a catch that he clearly knew had not carried. If you think you have a point here I can assure you there isn't one.
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Not when it is about to reject them a record. And you seem to be of the thought that Aussies are the only players who have done this. Get real.
And besides, what does this say about the long integrity of your team?
YouTube - Ian Healy Cheating
Or the way New Zealand was cheated at the world cup:
YouTube - Infamous Underarm Ball
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One thing strikes me, however. Mike Proctor was the match referee then as he is now. There have been clear implacations in the comments of many posters here that Proctor is biased in his ruling in Sydney. If so, why would you use one of his judgements as an example? If he was biased against Harbhajan, why not Latif? This is the problem, you see, when logic is abandoned in favour of fevered conspiracy theories.
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Well, maybe because there was concrete evidence, like tv replays and the likes, which clearly showed him doing what he did. However, I think the ICC is biased here for not taking the same action against Ponting as he did the same thing as Latif... still a conspiracy theory?
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As I said before, a bunch of whining hypocrites. When Australia sledges it is a threat to the game, when India does it it is 'schoolboyish'. When an Indian gets a bad decision it is a conspiracy, when an Aussie gets one it didn't even happen.
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You are the only one who seems to be whining here genious. Whining that a man's word is more then enough then the need for evidence; I wouldn't be surprised to hear you singing another tone had an Aussie cricketer been in Bhajji's shoes.
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And just in case you feel I am picking on India, I'm not. Sth Africa are even worse. it took us beating them 6-0 for them to stop complaining about umpiring, sledging etc. (though they sledge as much as us). They too are losers, and will remain so while ever they keep making excuses for not being good enough.
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Aussies are good, but not THAT good. Throw out the umpires, and bring in technology to make the decisions in the game, and the face of cricket becomes much different and much more fair.